More handshake idiocy

[bigdogrunnin]

and

Scrapper1:

I feel your pain. It is amazing how stupid people with graduate degrees in education can be.

MTD, Sr.
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Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
IAABO (Lake Erie District) Board #55
Toledo, Ohio

Gentlemen, I am a school administrator, and I do certainly take offense to both these statements. Don't let a few bad apples dictate your opinion of us all. That is akin to saying that one bad official means we are all horrible. Not true in either case.

I will also add that ANY official that comes to my campus is treated professionally, always. They are provided a safe, clean, and secure area to change and talk. They are provided with drinks (gatorade, water), towels, and showers with hot water. They are also greeted upon entering the facility and escorted onto and off of the floor before, during, and after the game, including an escort to their vehicles upon leaving. No one is allowed to speak with the officials before, during, or after the game. Also officials working at my school don't have to worry about coming to me in regards to fan behavior either, because I am already addressing it. We police the fans to ensure that they are practicing good sportsmanship, no foul-mouthed comments or yelling and screaming at the officials. First time + warning, second time = going home with NO refund. OH, and if we can, we try to have something for the officials to eat or snack on as well.

I will finish by adding that I am a tad disappointed that your comments were even made, and I, personally and professionally, would expect better from fellow officials . . . especially from those on this forum that I have come to admire and respect.

[sj]

Just so I can follow is it a MA policy that the officials stay out on the court and shake hands with all the players and coaches after a game. Unless the school doesn't do certain things. Is that what your referring too.

[chartrusepengui]

Speaking of handshakes - Did a vG game friday and all goes well. At final buzzer we go to our dressing area. A minute or so later there is a knock on the door. I open it to find the girls from BOTH teams at the door. They shook my partner's and my hand and thanked us for coming. I've had a player come and do that but this was the entire team from both schools. It was kinda nice for a change.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by sj

Just so I can follow is it a MA policy that the officials stay out on the court and shake hands with all the players and coaches after a game. Unless the school doesn't do certain things. Is that what your referring too.

The teams line up and shake hands and the officials are supposed to stand at midcourt to observe this glorious display of good sportsmanship.

[Scrapper1]

Here's a question for the lawyers out there. If the AD does have me blocked from receiving assignments at his school simply because I followed the protocol, is that legal? Is there any recourse for me?

[chartrusepengui]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Here's a question for the lawyers out there. If the AD does have me blocked from receiving assignments at his school simply because I followed the protocol, is that legal? Is there any recourse for me?

Do you really WANT to go back there and work knowing the AD is a yutz?

[Da Official]

Originally Posted by chartrusepengui

Do you really WANT to go back there and work knowing the AD is a yutz?

That's what I'm thinking...why go back? LOL!

Well, you know what they say 'officials love abuse'.......(just kidding!)

[Adam]

Originally Posted by chartrusepengui

Do you really WANT to go back there and work knowing the AD is a yutz?

If it was me, I would. Mainly because I'd hate being told I couldn't, and I'd hate letting the dictate this. That said, if you go back, you can be sure the AD will do it by the book next time.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by chartrusepengui

Do you really WANT to go back there and work knowing the AD is a yutz?

That's beside the point. The point is whether my rights have been infringed. That's why I asked for a lawyer's opinion.

[sj]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

The teams line up and shake hands and the officials are supposed to stand at midcourt to observe this glorious display of good sportsmanship.

Scheez. I guess that's what the original poster is referring to when he talks about "more" handshake idiocy. Meaning on top of the policy itself he's having to put up with this other protocol stuff. Those guys are sitting ducks standing out there.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

The teams line up and shake hands and the officials are supposed to stand at midcourt to observe this glorious display of good sportsmanship.

I also believe that their jurisdiction ends with the approval of the final score, thus leaving them defenseless, lame ducks.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I also believe that their jurisdiction ends with the approval of the final score, thus leaving them defenseless, lame ducks.

No way I'm approving the score before I leave the court. I want recourse in case someone does or says something stupid.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

No way I'm approving the score before I leave the court. I want recourse in case someone does or says something stupid.

I don't think you have a choice in the Bay State. I'm sure Scrapper1 will confirm, or not confirm this aspect for us.

[Adam]

I think you're right, and it's my 2nd biggest problem with the hand shake garbage.

[Jburt]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I don't think you have a choice in the Bay State. I'm sure Scrapper1 will confirm, or not confirm this aspect for us.

This is correct. The score is confirmed before the PGHS and we as officials do not have any jurisdiction over the PGHS. Its up to the site admin and coaches. My understanding is that fighting will be penalized by the state. The score confirmation has also been an issue with our insurance policy which apparently doesn't include the PGHS since the score has been confirmed.