5 Second Violation??

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by ma_ref

I respectfully disagree. Wouldn't this fall under the "actionless contest" rule?

It's hard to read sarcasm /humor in some of the posts, but I'll assume that is what you meant.

[Grail]

There once was a rule that forced one team to create the action. I don't remember it completely, but I believe the team behind in the score had to force the action.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Grail

There once was a rule that forced one team to create the action. I don't remember it completely, but I believe the team behind in the score had to force the action.

Correct, back in the early eighties.

[BillyMac]

The closely guarded rule is in effect in frontcourt only, when a defender is within six feet of the ball handler. Up to three separate five-second counts may occur on the same ball handler, holding, dribbling, and holding. The count continues even if defenders switch. The five-second count ends when a dribbler gets his or her head and shoulders ahead of the defender.

[ma_ref]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

It's hard to read sarcasm /humor in some of the posts, but I'll assume that is what you meant.

I didn't mean any sarcasm. What part seemed sarcastic? I was just trying to point out a legit rule that contrasted with what a previous post-er witnessed...

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by ma_ref

I didn't mean any sarcasm. What part seemed sarcastic? I was just trying to point out a legit rule that contrasted with what a previous post-er witnessed...

How can you have a 5 second closely guarded violation when you stated the player was not closely guarded? A long while back, if I remember correctly, the offense had to break the 28 foot line in the front court...but that was changed long ago. If the dribbler is not closely guarded (within 6 feet) by the defender, then you have nothing.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by ma_ref

I didn't mean any sarcasm. What part seemed sarcastic? I was just trying to point out a legit rule that contrasted with what a previous post-er witnessed...

ma ref,
They got rid of that rule about 20 years ago.

I had a similar playoff experience with a team holding the ball for almost two entire quarters.

[ma_ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

ma ref,
They got rid of that rule about 20 years ago.

I had a similar playoff experience with a team holding the ball for almost two entire quarters.

Really? NFHS rule 10-1-5:

A team shall not:
"...Allow the game to develop into an actionless contest. This includes the following and similar acts:"

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by ma_ref

Really? NFHS rule 10-1-5:

A team shall not:
"...Allow the game to develop into an actionless contest. This includes the following and similar acts:"

Read the rest of the rule.....your point is misguided and your interpretation is off.....

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by ma_ref

Really? NFHS rule 10-1-5:

A team shall not:
"...Allow the game to develop into an actionless contest. This includes the following and similar acts:"

But the specific "lack of action" rule was dropped.

10-1-5 has a different meaning than you seem to think.

[acgod24]

I whistled her for 5 seconds after picking her dribble up. so it is legal for her to stand there, even though she used up her dribble, for however long until she is closely guarded? obviously when the defense comes out, she can only pass or shoot.

[IREFU2]

If she is closely guarded while she is holding the ball, she 5 second to get rid of the ball. If she is not closely guarded, she can stand there all day. This is a very simple rule in my opinion.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by acgod24

I whistled her for 5 seconds after picking her dribble up. so it is legal for her to stand there, even though she used up her dribble, for however long until she is closely guarded? obviously when the defense comes out, she can only pass or shoot.

Correct.

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by acgod24

I whistled her for 5 seconds after picking her dribble up. so it is legal for her to stand there, even though she used up her dribble, for however long until she is closely guarded? obviously when the defense comes out, she can only pass or shoot or request time-out.

That is correct.

[imagomer]

I'm wondering, What was the coach's reaction? What was your partner's reaction? What sort of post-game did you and your partner have? You obviously have begun to question your call, since you posted it here for clarification.