Multiple pre-game dunks.

[Amesman]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

It's possible, even if you head directly for the coach, that the knucklehead would do it again before you got to the coach.

Good point. To get back to what I think Skarecrow was alluding to, then do you just keep a mental scorecard as you observe and then let the coaches and book know at 0:00 who dunked, how many times, etc. (these things can come in bunches if it starts happening at all), why coach will be collecting splinters all night, etc.? And the mechanic?

[Adam]

Honestly, I'm with Rich on the mechanics. Don't know and have a hard time caring.

If I see it, I'll tell the player when i get his attention. I'll also get his number at that time, and walk over to the coach and let him know. I'll then tell the scorer and the other coach. Unless someone can give me a compellling reason to do it differently.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Honestly, I'm with Rich on the mechanics. Don't know and have a hard time caring.

If I see it, I'll tell the player when i get his attention. I'll also get his number at that time, and walk over to the coach and let him know. I'll then tell the scorer and the other coach. Unless someone can give me a compellling reason to do it differently.

I'm waiting for someone to make an argument that maybe someone on the other team might dunk and only the first dunk would get penalized.

But that's not my problem. I am most likely (unless I can't get away with it) going to try to prevent starting the game with a technical, but if someone slams one home I'll take care of it and by extension prevent any more from happening.

With my luck, this will all happen tonight.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Amesman

Good point. To get back to what I think Skarecrow was alluding to, then do you just keep a mental scorecard as you observe and then let the coaches and book know at 0:00 who dunked, how many times, etc. (these things can come in bunches if it starts happening at all), why coach will be collecting splinters all night, etc.? And the mechanic?

No. You tell the coach right away. That doesn't mean that the second kid in line won't dunk before you can get to the coach, or that the first kid won't come through the line again.

[icallfouls]

Depending on the game, I have even gone to game management, and told them to let both coaches know that the officials will be on court at 15:00, in the hopes that some preventative officiating and preventative coaching will prevail.

Seems to work pretty well.

If you have good game management they will post people near the area where the officials come onto the floor and notify the teams that the officials will be taking the floor.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by icallfouls

If you have good game management they will post people near the area where the officials come onto the floor and notify the teams that the officials will be taking the floor.

Nonsense. I could just as easily claim that if you have good coaching, it won't matter.

The fact is, it's regional. Around here, kids just expect that they won't be able to dunk during warmups. If they want to do it anyway, they should look and see if we're there. We always look the same pre-game; black pants, black shoes, black jacket, standing at or around half-court away from the table.

[Ignats75]

As usual, Snaqwells gets it right.

[icallfouls]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Nonsense. I could just as easily claim that if you have good coaching, it won't matter.

The fact is, it's regional. Around here, kids just expect that they won't be able to dunk during warmups. If they want to do it anyway, they should look and see if we're there. We always look the same pre-game; black pants, black shoes, black jacket, standing at or around half-court away from the table.

Snaqs, you are misunderstanding what I said. I said that if you have good game management, they will take care of it. I was not saying go to them and tell them to deal with it. Some schools around here have people that take care of notifying the teams to stop their high flying acts just before we hit the floor. I am in no way saying this is something I do or recommend doing.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by icallfouls

Snaqs, you are misunderstanding what I said. I said that if you have good game management, they will take care of it. I was not saying go to them and tell them to deal with it. Some schools around here have people that take care of notifying the teams to stop their high flying acts just before we hit the floor. I am in no way saying this is something I do or recommend doing.

I meant to address this earlier, but the office Christmas party called and I wasn't about to turn away the Honey Baked Ham.

I understood you perfectly. My point is that for most of us, game management has nothing to do with pregame dunks; nor should they. No one needs to tell the kids not to dunk, because their coaches have already taught them not to. I never implied you said we should let game admin deal with it or go to them.

I simply disagree that "good game management" will make sure the kids stop playing naughty before I get on the court. They may do it where you are, but not here. GM greets us, lets us in the room, escorts us back to the room at half time and games end, and gets us water. Half the time, they do not see us walk onto the court.

My beef is with the implication of your statement about good game management. It implies that game management that doesn't babysit the players for both teams isn't "good." Maybe it's a requirement for them in your area of the country, but I'd say your area is in the minority from what I can tell in this forum.

[Man In Blue]

Originally Posted by icallfouls

Depending on the game, I have even gone to game management, and told them to let both coaches know that the officials will be on court at 15:00, in the hopes that some preventative officiating and preventative coaching will prevail.

Seems to work pretty well.

If you have good game management they will post people near the area where the officials come onto the floor and notify the teams that the officials will be taking the floor.

So you are saying that if you come out and there is 15:30 on the clock you wouldn't call the T?

[icallfouls]

Originally Posted by Man In Blue

So you are saying that if you come out and there is 15:30 on the clock you wouldn't call the T?

You are missing the point, that game management tells the players, coaches, whatever, that the officials are on their way. Therefore, the officials don't get the chance to see pregame dunks. They do this so that the teams don't get caught.

Yes, if pre-game dunking occurs while I am in the visual confines, it gets called.

[jalons]

Originally Posted by Amesman

Good point. To get back to what I think Skarecrow was alluding to, then do you just keep a mental scorecard as you observe and then let the coaches and book know at 0:00 who dunked, how many times, etc. (these things can come in bunches if it starts happening at all), why coach will be collecting splinters all night, etc.? And the mechanic?

I have been taught to have the official observing that team speak with the player who dunked and get his jersey number in case he is wearing a warm-up shirt immediately, inform the player who dunked of the consequences of his actions, and then inform the coach of the "good" news.

I've only had this happen one time. We handled the situation this way and everything ran smoothly. Of course next time could be the total opposite.