Held Ball?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

If that's not a held ball, what do you think the call should be? Or do you think it's a no call? Have you read the definition of a held ball in the rulebook?

I'm guessing the hang up is on the use of the word "hands", as in plural.

[IchiRef]

while I do not have the rule book with me, it is my understanding that a jump ball is to be called with the players share control and I wasn't sure whether one hand on the ball by one player meant both had control...

[Adam]

Shared control is not necessary. If both players are prevented from gaining complete control without undue force, it's a held ball.

[IchiRef]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Shared control is not necessary. If both players are prevented from gaining complete control without undue force, it's a held ball.

thanks, this answers my question.

A1 jumps to release a shot, B3 blocks the ball (with 1 hand) so it doesn't leave A1s hands & he returns to the floor.

Results in a held ball not a travel.

[IchiRef]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

A1 jumps to release a shot, B3 blocks the ball (with 1 hand) so it doesn't leave A1s hands & he returns to the floor.

Results in a held ball not a travel.

I see this situation as very different. would it still result it a held ball if A1 was on the floor and passing?

Originally Posted by IchiRef

I see this situation as very different. would it still result it a held ball if A1 was on the floor and passing?

Extremely different, but "1 hand" is what the 2 share in common.
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but by your OP I thought that was the reason for your concern.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

Extremely different, but "1 hand" is what the 2 share in common.

Only if they're conjoined twins.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Only if they're conjoined twins.

On opposing teams? :horror:

[cubsfanllw]

I had exactly the same thing last night in a VG game.

A1 has the ball laying on the floor in the frontcourt. B1 reaches in and puts one hand on it and just looks at me. I didn't see anything close to simultaneous possession. We all just sat there for what seemed like forever (maybe 2 seconds) and I finally called a held ball. Not sure what I should done (definitely not legal guarding position) and A1 was making no attempt to do anything with the ball. Something had to give.

[icallfouls]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

On opposing teams? :horror:

The school district boundary is divided top bunk and bottom bunk.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I'm guessing the hang up is on the use of the word "hands", as in plural.

A held ball occurs when: Opponents have their hands so firmly on the ball that control cannot be obtained without undue roughness.

Two players. Four hands. Two hands from one player, two hands from the other: held ball. One hand each: no held ball? Two hands from one player, one hand from another: held ball?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

A held ball occurs when: Opponents have their hands so firmly on the ball that control cannot be obtained without undue roughness.

Two players. Four hands. Two hands from one player, two hands from the other: held ball. One hand each: no held ball? Two hands from one player, one hand from another: held ball?

When each opponent has one hand on the ball "Opponents have their hands" on the ball. Between them, there is plurality.

Imagine both players tucking the ball under a single arm as in a football running back and tugging on it. Is there anyone that suggest this is no a held ball?

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Imagine both players tucking the ball under a single arm as in a football running back and tugging on it.

In which case there are no hands on it.

But I agree with the idea. In the OP, I would've called a held ball as well, only because the player "gave up" and didn't attempt to get the ball away from the defender. I'm normally a little slow in signaling a held ball because I need to see control by both teams, and enough control where, as the rule states, "control cannot be obtained without undue roughness". Because the OP stated they waited a little, and both players had "equal" control, I would've eventually signaled the held ball as well.