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Old Thu Dec 11, 2008, 01:52pm
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A1 is driving toward the basket below the Ft line and being double teamed. Player A1 tries to split the double team, B2 picks A1 clean and could be off and running, then B1 collides with A1 while moving toward A1 to cut off the dribble penetration. The lead has a whistle and a foul on B1 - what enforcement do you have, it will be the same in either FED or NCAA.
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Old Thu Dec 11, 2008, 03:03pm
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TC foul on B1. Ball back to A at spot of foul with new shot clock
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Old Fri Dec 12, 2008, 09:55am
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If B already stole the ball, was it really a foul on B1? L should of held the whistle.
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Old Fri Dec 12, 2008, 10:02am
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If B already stole the ball, was it really a foul on B1? L should of held the whistle.
Really? Ew.
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Old Fri Dec 12, 2008, 10:03am
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Depends on what you mean by "picked clean". If you're saying that B1 established player control by holding or dribbling the ball, then it's a team control foul.

If B1 stripped the ball away from A1, but had not yet established player control, then it's a common foul because Team A would still have team control.

I think you mean the former, but I can't be sure from your description.
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Old Fri Dec 12, 2008, 11:41am
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Sounds like the collision is/could be contact that can be ignored especially if you have a clean breakaway by B2. I would have to see the play.....
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Old Fri Dec 12, 2008, 01:02pm
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B1 established player control by holding or dribbling the ball,
he was three steps out but not on a breakaway!

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Sounds like the collision is/could be contact that can be ignored
So it is contact that you would have called if the player had the ball but is now incidental if the player doesn't have the ball?
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Old Fri Dec 12, 2008, 01:10pm
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If B1's contact put an opponent at a disadvantage defensively, you have to call it.
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Old Fri Dec 12, 2008, 01:17pm
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So it is contact that you would have called if the player had the ball but is now incidental if the player doesn't have the ball?
Perhaps. Depends on advantage/disadvantage. Contact on a player with the ball might cause a disadvatage to that player, where the same contact on the player without the ball might cause no disadvantage. Just depends.
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