Illegal Numbers-NFHS

[Scratch85]

[QUOTE=bob jenkins;556760]
The number is part of the uniform -- 3-4. The penalty for this is a T. /QUOTE]


Bob, you need to give one of your concise, correct answers on this. I already fear someone has left the post with the wrong opinion on this.

[bob jenkins]

[QUOTE=Scratch85;556770]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The number is part of the uniform -- 3-4. The penalty for this is a T. /QUOTE]


Bob, you need to give one of your concise, correct answers on this. I already fear someone has left the post with the wrong opinion on this.

For transgressions of 3-4: It's a T (one per team, charged directly to the head coach), but individuals can play with the illegal item(s).

For trangressions of 3-5: No T, but individuals cannot play with the illegal item(s).

[buckrog64]

Yeah, thought we were talking about uniforms and not extra time outs. I'm not sure if I'd let someone in without a uniform that reflects the rules. 'I'm sorry, but she forgot her uniform, so she'll wear her brother's who is on the JV team.' "I'm sorry but we had budget cuts, we have 12 black uniforms, two gray uniforms and one red uniform, but they're all road uniforms...' All at the cost of a single T.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by buckrog64

Yeah, thought we were talking about uniforms and not extra time outs. I'm not sure if I'd let someone in without a uniform that reflects the rules. 'I'm sorry, but she forgot her uniform, so she'll wear her brother's who is on the JV team.' "I'm sorry but we had budget cuts, we have 12 black uniforms, two gray uniforms and one red uniform, but they're all road uniforms...' All at the cost of a single T.

So you're going to ignore the rule and tell a kid she can't play? If so, and if it happens, get used to middle school ball.

[BillyMac]

Penalized when discovered: The head coach shall not permit a team member to participate while wearing an illegal number. Head coach direct technical foul. Penalized when discovered. A maximum of one technical foul shall be charged directly to the head coach regardless of the number of offenders. The team member with the illegal uniform number may participate without further penalty and is not required to change his/her number. If no changes are made to the scorebook, no infraction has occurred.

[BillyMac]

Team A has one team member wearing 0, and the another team member wearing 00. Maybe one, or both participate, becoming players. Maybe they don't. In all cases, the 0, and 00, are discovered after the ten minute mark. Maybe before the game starts. Maybe after the game starts.

Are these considered identical numbers?
Penalized when discovered: A team shall not have identical numbers on team members, and/or players, after the ten minute time limit. Team technical foul. Charged upon discovery of identical numbers. A maximum of one foul per team regardless of the number of infractions. A maximum of one technical foul per team regardless of the number of infractions for 2a, 3a, 3b, 3c, 4a. Only one team member may wear a given number; the other must change to a number not already in use before participating.

Are these considered illegal numbers?Penalized when discovered: The head coach shall not permit a team member to participate while wearing an illegal number. Head coach direct technical foul. Penalized when discovered. A maximum of one technical foul shall be charged directly to the head coach regardless of the number of offenders. The team member with the illegal uniform number may participate without further penalty and is not required to change his/her number. If no changes are made to the scorebook, no infraction has occurred.

"I've given you a topic. Talk amongst yourselves".

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Are these considered identical numbers

Are these considered illegal numbers

According to the 2008-2009 interps, the answers are "No" and "Yes."

Note that some (NevadaRef for one) think the interp is "wrong." If you search the other interps in that thread, you'll find one from 2002 or so (I'm doing thsi from memory) that has an immediate T for duplicate numbers if both 0 and 00 are listed.

Anyone can proposed rules changes to the FED -- you should do so if it bothers you.

[Scratch85]

[QUOTE=bob jenkins;556782]

Originally Posted by Scratch85

For transgressions of 3-4: It's a T (one per team, charged directly to the head coach), but individuals can play with the illegal item(s).

For trangressions of 3-5: No T, but individuals cannot play with the illegal item(s).

Thanks, always listen to Bob.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

For transgressions of 3-4: It's a T (one per team, charged directly to the head coach), but individuals can play with the illegal item(s).

For trangressions of 3-5: No T, but individuals cannot play with the illegal item(s).

That's my understanding of this as well.

"Always listen to Bob."