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Old Mon Dec 08, 2008, 04:19pm
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I suppose a call to the assignor would be in order except I have a couple of different horses in that race.

1) I didn't disclose it at the beginning because it really has no bearing in the play, but B1 was my darling daughter, who now thinks I'm just another cog in the Evil Empire of the Loyal Order of Zebras. Unfortunately, many parents know who I am, so I have to keep my mouth shut. Nothing good would come from me even discussing the play with them.

2) Each conference has its own assignor. I have never worked for the gentleman who assigns that conference. Its too political there for my taste. But with 18 schools in the conference, its a huge opportunity that I have chosen to bypass. I really have no desire to make waves there in the chance that once Julie graduate, i might wend up getting some assignments from him.

You know, people think its strange that I don't block out all the nights that my daughter plays to watch her, and this is why. I am constantly put in tough situations because the parents around me are constantly badgering me about preceived bad calls. Its so distracting that I don't enjoy it. I hear comments that hack me off. I see officials not hustling the way I would want an official to hustle for MY daughter dammit. .. The coach has made the team DVD's available for me to view for the games I miss and I leave it to her Mom and older brother and sister to go watch. But I do feel conflicted at times.

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Old Mon Dec 08, 2008, 04:21pm
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fwiw, C might also deserve a whack if they're that far out of the play and didn't hang back some, unless it's truly just a 1 on 1 matchup coming up the floor on the T's side
In fairness, C was all the way over on the far sideline, and the play literaally happened on the near sideline to the benches. He was really no closer than the L. On top of that, he is a very inexperienced official doing his first year of varsity and probably would never think to get involved.
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Old Mon Dec 08, 2008, 04:56pm
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In fairness, C was all the way over on the far sideline, and the play literaally happened on the near sideline to the benches. He was really no closer than the L. On top of that, he is a very inexperienced official doing his first year of varsity and probably would never think to get involved.
Sounds like the L needs some more experience as well.
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Old Mon Dec 08, 2008, 07:11pm
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Sounds like the L needs some more experience as well.
Sadly, Although I don't know him, I believe he was the most experienced of the three.
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First off, I very rarely (can't remember the last time) get hacked off at my partners when they call something, even if it's in front of me. I just don't take it as them trying to grandstand or show me up. I assume they saw something they felt needed to be called. We would definitely discuss it in the locker room, but there wouldn't be any anger involved. It's ridiculous to get angry about something like this - we all have brain farts every now and then, so why not just assume your partner had a brain fart and move on.

Secondly, I am not going with a blarge on this one. If the upset coach asks me, I will simply say "I don't know Coach, but here comes Snaqs. You can ask him."

Third - I'm not calling an assignor over this play. It really isn't that egregious of a mistake. No rule was set aside or misapplied. A partner called out of his primary in front of me. If I call the assignor about that, I look like a little whiner. Not needed.
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Secondly, I am not going with a blarge on this one. If the upset coach asks me, I will simply say "I don't know Coach, but here comes Snaqs. You can ask him."
When he does ask me, I'll be sure to keep my answer short.
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Secondly, I am not going with a blarge on this one. If the upset coach asks me, I will simply say "I don't know Coach, but here comes Snaqs. You can ask him."
Does this make rocky another appeaser?
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Does this make rocky another appeaser?

The point I was trying to make was that some assignors want that brown blarge stuff avoided if at all possible, and if that is whatthey want they have to be appeased. I really don't consider the coach's feeling applicable here.

The original poster implied the Trail was dead on the play and knew what he had (and was in front of everyone else that knew what the Trail had).
So, the Trail had to do something.

If Trail does not call the charge on his own, he is giving a terribly unfair advantage to the offense. If the Trail does not call the charge because he was told (by his assignor?) to not make a call contrary to a partner's preliminary signal in order to avoid the blarge, then he is appeasing the assignor (which may be quite necessary*) and is not using all the rules to the best of his ability.

* - the assignor may ask his officials to avoid the double foul, in this instance, so that his customers will not be asking him how his trained personnel can see two different things on the same play.
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Old Wed Dec 10, 2008, 11:34am
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Does this make rocky another appeaser?
Nope...I'm a little short on appeasement!
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Old Mon Dec 08, 2008, 04:24pm
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I suppose a call to the assignor would be in order except I have a couple of different horses in that race.

1) I didn't disclose it at the beginning because it really has no bearing in the play, but B1 was my darling daughter, who now thinks I'm just another cog in the evil empire of the Loyal Order of Zebras. Unfortunately, many parents know who I am, so I have to keep my mouth shut. Nothing good would come from me even discussing the play with them.
You're right that it doesn't have bearing on the play, but if this is a varsity contest, you definitely shouldn't be working your own daughter's game, unless your region is short on officials. Way too many potential headaches to deal with, and I'm not talking about the ones at home.
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Old Mon Dec 08, 2008, 04:27pm
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You're right that it doesn't have bearing on the play, but if this is a varsity contest, you definitely shouldn't be working your own daughter's game, unless your region is short on officials. Way too many potential headaches to deal with, and I'm not talking about the ones at home.

I wasn't. I was in the stands. I thought that was clear in the OP. I would never work one of her Varsity games. I had to hand back two varsity assingments this year because I found out her team was the visitors. Summer ball, now THATs a different story. In fact, she hates when her AAU team ends up on my court. .. The first whistle is ALWAYS on her.

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