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Old Mon Dec 08, 2008, 02:35pm
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I enforce the headbands at all scholastic levels.

YMCA, I leave it alone.

AAU, it depends.
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It is a rule. That means it applies to all levels.

That being said, just like many things at the lower level, you might not nitpick over many uniform rules in order to have kids play. I would check with the people in your area about that, but I know that often times we get warm-up uniforms and it is hard to be so picky about every aspect of ever so-called uniform violation. But this rule is easily to comply with and I really do not see why on some level it cannot be followed.
Concur with Snaqs and JRut. But this is where I personally run into issues. At what level do you go 100% by the book (V) and at what level do you say it's ok not to be 100% by the book and use some discretion? Where does the gray area begin?

Example - Regarless of level the jewelry policy stands (none). Hair restraints (all). Blood or injury (all). At V level we do uniforms (white and black) below this (JV and below?) we do light and dark (by reg).

How about, you need to have the book filled out 10 min early (V and JV) At what level are we just fortunate to have a book to start the game and not assess a T (7th, 8th, MS)? Putting names in the book late or not having the starters marked (what level)? Illegal jersey logo as hand me downs (what grade level) - T?

It's similar to "loosening up your standards a bit" to ref a 11/12 yr old rec game (travelling) vs what you would call for a V game.

Discretion is sometimes tough across the board and it makes it harder on the next set of refs who may have a differnt standard. Hence why I asked my Association to give me definite guidance on uniforms from my post last week. Just my $.02
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Old Mon Dec 08, 2008, 03:31pm
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How about, you need to have the book filled out 10 min early (V and JV)
OK - I know this is changing the topic, but this is simply not true. I could care less if the book is filled out before 10 min., as long as both teams have supplied the scorer with their rosters and starters prior to the 10 min. mark...just a pet peeve. We now return you to the stimulating discussion of what constitutes going "around" the head.
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Old Mon Dec 08, 2008, 08:03pm
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Maybe They'll Fill In The Scorebook At Halftime ???

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I could care less if the book is filled out before 10 minutes, as long as both teams have supplied the scorer with their rosters and starters prior to the 10 minute mark.
You're correct. You don't have to care if the scorebook is filled in before the ten minute mark. This is a common myth. The rules say so:

NFHS 10-1: A team shall not fail to supply the scorer with the name and number of each team member who may participate and designate the five starting players at least 10 minutes before the scheduled starting time.
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Old Tue Dec 09, 2008, 02:45am
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We talked about this tonite at a rules meeting. AGAIN. The commish urged us all to be consistent and to enforce the rules.

Frankly, I dont get it. This isnt hard. Its probably the easiest thing we can do. Its during warm ups while we are just standing there. No game action. The rules are clear. The new colors arent confusing. Headband vs. hair control device is simple. The uniform rules are really not that hard.

Why is there this huge contingent that doesnt want to enforce this stuff? I'll agree, I'd rather not have to worry about some of this stuff. But for goodness sake, know the rule and apply the rule. Consistently. Its just not that hard.

I mean, here we have the OP talking about black like you cant have a black headband when at home. Or someone being confused about prewrap when prewrap is specifically mentioned.

Maybe I am just dense. But this stuff is easy. Why can't we all just go out and get this right? At the varsity level at least, for goodness sake.
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