Jump Ball?

Johnny Ringo · #1 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 05, 2008, 02:07pm

A1 takes the ball out of bounds for a throw in ... A1 holds ball over the OOB line where B1 grabs the ball and A1 and B1 now both have possesion of the ball ... Is a jump ball is the correct call?

Terrapins Fan · #2 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 05, 2008, 02:08pm

Yes, provided it wasn't OOB because of an A-P.

fiasco · #3 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 05, 2008, 02:17pm

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Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

Yes, provided it wasn't OOB because of an A-P.

What difference does that make in the call?

jritchie · #4 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 05, 2008, 02:36pm

Correct call, "Held" Ball.

If It was from an A-P, the team taking it out would still keep it!

rbrown3811 · #5 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 05, 2008, 02:38pm

Throw-in hasn't ended and no violation occurred so the arrow doesn't change (4-42-5; Casebook 6.4.5 Situation B).

Scratch85 · #6 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 05, 2008, 02:43pm

I agree with all of this. But in the case of an AP throwin, could it just continue forever?

Adam · #7 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 05, 2008, 02:47pm

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Originally Posted by Scratch85

I agree with all of this. But in the case of an AP throwin, could it just continue forever?

Usually only for 5 seconds.... but yes, theoretically.

Johnny Ringo · #8 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 05, 2008, 03:00pm

In summary ... if team A was awarded the ball because of a held ball situation and the arrow in their favor, and we had this situation on the throw in Team A would then get the ball back for another throw in?

fiasco · #9 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 05, 2008, 03:01pm

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Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

In summary ... if team A was awarded the ball because of a held ball situation and the arrow in their favor, and we had this situation on the throw in Team A would then get the ball back for another throw in?

When is the arrow reset?

Scratch85 · #10 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 05, 2008, 03:01pm

Yes. Because the AP is still in their direction.

Back In The Saddle · #11 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 05, 2008, 04:18pm

Yep, and a held ball is not a violation. Despite what the "Rules By Topic" book says.

Terrapins Fan · #12 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 05, 2008, 08:52pm

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Originally Posted by fiasco

When is the arrow reset?

When the throw in is completed or the team with the arrow violates.

The throw is in completed when the ball is legally touched by a player in bounds or a player out of bounds.

BillyMac · #13 (**permalink**) Sat Dec 06, 2008, 07:13pm

7.6.4 SITUATION F: Thrower A1 inadvertently holds the ball through the endline plane during a throw-in. B1 is able to get his/her hands on the ball and A1 cannot pull it back. RULING: There is no player or team control during a throw in, therefore a held ball is called, resulting in an alternating-possession throw-in. If the original throw-in is an alternating-possession throw-in, Team A still has the arrow following the held ball.

Back In The Saddle · #14 (**permalink**) Sat Dec 06, 2008, 09:19pm

What does player or team control have to do with this situation?

Adam · #15 (**permalink**) Sat Dec 06, 2008, 10:55pm

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

What does player or team control have to do with this situation?

Great question, BITS. They have the right ruling but the wrong reasoning. Or at least they have irrelevant and misleading reasoning.

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