Odd Looking Play in Duke Game

[AKOFL]

so B1 is recieving a pass on the run. It is a little out of reach. so he reaches out and swats it out of the air to the floor then procedes to pic it up and start his dribble. Is this double dribble?

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by AKOFL

so B1 is recieving a pass on the run. It is a little out of reach. so he reaches out and swats it out of the air to the floor then procedes to pic it up and start his dribble. Is this double dribble?

It's a judgment call. If you judge that B1 was in control of the ball when he swatted it out of the air, and thus began a dribble, then yes. If you judge that the swat was part of his attempt to gain control of the ball, then no. IMHO, if it's not obviously the first case, assume the second.

[AKOFL]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

It's a judgment call. If you judge that B1 was in control of the ball when he swatted it out of the air, and thus began a dribble, then yes. If you judge that the swat was part of his attempt to gain control of the ball, then no. IMHO, if it's not obviously the first case, assume the second.

I'm new. What's IMHO. U don't want to know what I think it is.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by AKOFL

I'm new. What's IMHO. U don't want to know what I think it is.

LOL, probably not.

IMHO = In my humble opinion.

There are a few others you'll see sometimes as well:
IIRC - If I recall correctly
AFAIK - As far as I know
YMMV - Your mileage may vary
OP - Original post, original poster
LOL - Laughing out loud
IOW - In other words

[AKOFL]

Thanks. I never thought at 34 i would be old school. I mean reading in full sentences. I new i should of cut more corners in school. LOL (u like that)

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by AKOFL

Thanks. I never thought at 34 i would be old school. I mean reading in full sentences. I new i should of cut more corners in school. LOL (u like that)

Full sentences? That's, like, way too many words.

You think you're old school now? Give it another couple more years. We'll be holding captains meetings via text message while the crew is dressing and the captains are shooting layups in warmups with their free hand. Of course, the U2 will have to conduct the meeting. It'll take too long for the crusty old R to figure out how to send a text message.

[Johnny Ringo]

What would be the correct violation call on a player who jumps then starts a dribble?

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

LOL, probably not.

IMHO = In my humble opinion.

There are a few others you'll see sometimes as well:
IIRC - If I recall correctly
AFAIK - As far as I know
YMMV - Your mileage may vary
OP - Original post, original poster
LOL - Laughing out loud
IOW - In other words

A guy named Jurassic Referee used to use STFU. What does that mean?

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

A guy named Jurassic Referee used to use STFU. What does that mean?

"Stay True For U"

"Licentious" Plate Tribute Rejected

[Back In The Saddle]

I think it must be his alma mater.

[Adam]

South Texas Foreigner University?

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by AKOFL

I'm new. What's IMHO. U don't want to know what I think it is.

AKOFL:

Welcome to the Forum. I hope you enjoy your visits here.

MTD, Sr.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by AKOFL

so B1 is recieving a pass on the run. It is a little out of reach. so he reaches out and swats it out of the air to the floor then procedes to pic it up and start his dribble. Is this double dribble?

NO!! NO!! NO!! NO!! NO!! NO!! NO!! NO!! NO!! NO!!


With apologies to the late J. Dallas Shirley, always give the benefit of the doubt to the player when he is trying to gain control of the ball in this situation. I am not saying that it is not possible for a player to gain control of the ball through the action of swatting of the ball as you describe, but the probablity of it is very, very, very, very small.

MTD, Sr.


P.S. AKOFL: My emphasis was not specifically intended for you but for the coaches and officials who lurk in the shadows of this Forum and will rule this an illegal dribble everytime. This year at the OhioHSAA State Rules Meetings this exact play was shown to everybody. It occured during the State Finals a few years ago and was ruled an illegal dribble. What made it worse was the State Rules Interpreter at the meeting at which I saw the tape thought it was the correct call.