legal or illegal dribble

[mick]

Originally Posted by Gmoore

casebook 4.15 " It is not a dribble when a player stands still and holds the ball and touches it to the floor once or more than once"

Gmoore,
Yeah, that was a given.
If you happen to read through the wordy thread, we were wondering what we should do if the player put the ball down on the floor, but then quit holding it, and then, the player picked the ball up again.

[CoachP]

Originally Posted by mick

Gmoore,
...... we were wondering what we should do if the player put the ball down on the floor, but then quit holding it, and then, the player picked the ball up again.

In all reality, I cannot envision a player setting the ball down slow enough that it doesn't roll even slightly. It moves a hair and you have the "infinitely smallest" definition of a push; therefore the start of a dribble.

On the other hand, he sets the ball down with both hands, wipes his hands on his socks and then bats the ball hard enough with one hand so that it starts bouncing....play on.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by CoachP

In all reality, I cannot envision a player setting the ball down slow enough that it doesn't roll even slightly. It moves a hair and you have the "infinitely smallest" definition of a push; therefore the start of a dribble.

The definition of a dribble includes the phrase "pushes the ball to the floor." The infinitely small push you refer to here occurs after the ball is placed on the floor.

[CoachP]

Originally Posted by just another ref

The definition of a dribble includes the phrase "pushes the ball to the floor." The infinitely small push you refer to here occurs after the ball is placed on the floor.

I am pushing the ball to the floor...I can push a lot of things without letting go....

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by CoachP

I am pushing the ball to the floor...I can push a lot of things without letting go....

I think I speak for us all when I say: HUH?

[CoachP]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I think I speak for us all when I say: HUH?

I "pushed" the ball to the floor and it eversoslightly moved after I let go...a dribble.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by CoachP

I "pushed" the ball to the floor and it eversoslightly moved after I let go...a dribble.

So you are saying the phrases "pushed the ball to the floor" and "placed the ball on the floor" are interchangeable? I disagree.