count the basket or not

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

If the clock doesn't show 1/10s of seconds, and indicates 0:04, then there is AT LEAST 4 seconds left (could be up to 4.9). So, you should count to 5.

Not necessarily. "4" on the clock could be 4.0-4.9 or it could be 3.1-4.0. Some round up, some round down.

If the horn immediately sounds when the clock switches to 0 (which I find more common), it will be the latter...3.1-4.0.

[cdoug]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Not necessarily. "4" on the clock could be 4.0-4.9 or it could be 3.1-4.0. Some round up, some round down.

If the horn immediately sounds when the clock switches to 0 (which I find more common), it will be the latter...3.1-4.0.

Either way I'd probably count an extra second just in case I accidentally counted too fast.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Not necessarily. "4" on the clock could be 4.0-4.9 or it could be 3.1-4.0. Some round up, some round down.

If the horn immediately sounds when the clock switches to 0 (which I find more common), it will be the latter...3.1-4.0.

How can the clock be from 3-4.9? thats a screwy clock

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Not necessarily. "4" on the clock could be 4.0-4.9 or it could be 3.1-4.0. Some round up, some round down.

If the horn immediately sounds when the clock switches to 0 (which I find more common), it will be the latter...3.1-4.0.

Which clocks?

I called NEVCO and asked about their clock operation. NEVCO clocks are popular in my area and work in the way that bob j describes, according to the engineer that I spoke to.

Either way, you tell can how the game clock operates by observing the change, or lack or change, immeidately after you switch the running of the clock to "on".

If the clock changes to 7:59 immediately, then there is really 7:59.9, 7:59.8, 7:59.7, 7:59.6 and so on, until the real time hits 7:58.9, at which point the clock will then read 7:58.

If the clock does not change to 7:59 immediately, then it will read 8:00 until the actual time is 7:59.0 at which time it will change to 7:59.

Surely (yes, Padgett, I am calling you Shirley), any official can tell the difference between 0.1s and 1.0s when it comes to the clock changing from 8:00 to 7:59.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Surely. Yes, Padgett, I am calling you Shirley.

Good one. One of my favorite movie quotes.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Which clocks?

I have no idea...but the topic (different implementations of clocks) has been discussed here on more than one occassion.

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

I called NEVCO and asked about their clock operation. NEVCO clocks are popular in my area and work in the way that bob j describes, according to the engineer that I spoke to.

I'm sure they do, but they may not be representative of all or even most clocks.

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Either way, you tell can how the game clock operates by observing the change, or lack or change, immeidately after you switch the running of the clock to "on".

If the clock changes to 7:59 immediately, then there is really 7:59.9, 7:59.8, 7:59.7, 7:59.6 and so on, until the real time hits 7:58.9, at which point the clock will then read 7:58.

If the clock does not change to 7:59 immediately, then it will read 8:00 until the actual time is 7:59.0 at which time it will change to 7:59.

That method will certainly work....just as well as watching the pregame clock count down to 0 and seeing if the horn sounds simultaneous with the appearance of 0. Your method, however, depends on knowing when the scorer flipped the switch...unless you're going to go over to the clock to test it yourself.

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Surely (yes, Padgett, I am calling you Shirley), any official can tell the difference between 0.1s and 1.0s when it comes to the clock changing from 8:00 to 7:59.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

That method will certainly work....just as well as watching the pregame clock count down to 0 and seeing if the horn sounds simultaneous with the appearance of 0. Your method, however, depends on knowing when the scorer flipped the switch...unless you're going to go over to the clock to test it yourself.

My method also affords me of doing to test anytime pre-game and I can start on any value immediately after a reset, without the need for waiting for someone else's timeline, until zeroes to appear and the horn to unnecessarily sound.

I know you're a curious guy, and what else is there to do when you're at a game 30-minutes prior to tip-off? You should see the look on coaches' faces when they try to pull a fast on me and I rebuke them because I know stuff. It's pretty funny.

I make it a point to know many things - including where the closest restrooms are at every venue!