First 2 Block/Charge Philosophy

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by zeedonk

Hi all-

Struggling a little bit with the following:

My 2nd year (I keep telling y'all that)- as we are moving to better games the more senior officials have been advising us to pregame the first two block/charges of the game. Goes something like this- if I'm lead and I have a player control on my end and we go back down and you have something similar, you'd better be calling a player control foul as well...

OK, I get why- we don't want to start the game 1-looking like the 2 officials are on different pages and 2- giving one or both coaches reason to start getting on us for being inconsistent. Here's my problem- what if I get the second block/charge and it's a no-question not-even-close block? I'm supposed to tank the call so we look consistent? Even better, if I'm your partner, am I gonna get the business if I go with the block?

I'm pretty sure I'm adding that question to my pregame with veteran partners...

Thanks
Z

I disagree with this philosophy. If you see a block or charge, call it! I would not let my call ride on the last block/charge. If you see an obvious block and you call it a charge because that is what was called the last time down court, you are doing a disservice to your integrity.

-Josh

[rlarry]

You don't tank the call. You make the call that needs to be made. in my pregames with newer officials, I use the hand check rule as an example for consistency. It is a call that some guys never make. I stress to my partners that if we call one on one end, let's make sure we call it the same way on the other.

Originally Posted by zeedonk

block/charges of the game. Goes something like this- if I'm lead and I have a player control on my end and we go back down and you have something similar, you'd better be calling a player control foul as well...

Originally Posted by jdmara

If you see an obvious block and you call it a charge because that is what was called the last time down court, you are doing a disservice to your integrity.

There is a difference...
Similar plays called in a similar manner vs. 2 wrongs don't make it right

[iref4him]

When I first started to officiate I was told the same thing by senior officials. Their reasoning was if the play is close and you call it the same way -- the coaches get off your back. IT DIDN'T MATTER!!!

I tell younger officials to just officiate the game, apply the rules correctly, advantage/disadvantage. You are going to be right and sometime you are going to be wrong. Get into position. If it is charge sell it. If it is a block, sell it. (Sometimes the call doesn't need selling.)

There are officials who I work with still go by that philosophy and it is not teaching the game correctly to the inexperienced officials. I have even had some of the inexperienced officials tell me during pre-game that this is the way the have been told to do. Then, I have to de-program them.

[OHBBREF]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

There is a difference...
Similar plays called in a similar manner vs. 2 wrongs don't make it right

We had this Saturday in a JUCO Game on consecutive trip in the first half and just a couple of trips a part in the second.

in the first half they were similar calls with the block on a airborne shooter second half they were both player control fouls for clearing out.

Similar plays - Similar calls that establishes your consistency.

If one is an obvious block and the other is an obvious Charge then call it that way because they aren't similar - but when they are similar call them in a similar manner and the coach has no standing to argue with you, "we called it the same way on the other end coach"

[BillyMac]

From my pregame:

Consistency
Let’s see if we can call the same game. Be consistent with each other. Let’s try to remember what we’ve called earlier in the game, and what we haven’t called. Be consistent with what has already happened in the game.

[grunewar]

While I understand their thought process....ya can't just call a charge because your partner did. You as a "team" must be consistent. A block is a block and a charge is a charge.

As long as you are consistent, firm (not wishy washy), know what you saw, and know the difference, you should be able to explain to a coach, evaluator, etc. why you called what you did - AND most importantly, it wll be coinsistent with your partner(s).

As you point out the plays may be similar, but then again not so much. Me, I'm standing by my guns. JMO