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Old Thu Nov 13, 2008, 01:22am
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In a two man game if a three is taken in the deep corner and Lead marks it does he also mirror the make of Trail if the field goal is good?

I was going to look this up, but you experts on here should know just as well as the book does!
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Old Thu Nov 13, 2008, 01:52am
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Normally the lead makes the attempt signal if the shot is in their area. And they signal the basket good (TD signal) when it is good in their primary. If the shot is not in their area, then the Lead does not signal a good shot.

I would check with your local people, some might want a different application.

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Old Thu Nov 13, 2008, 02:08am
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Yes, if the Lead marks the 3pt attempt because it came from his primary, then he also gives the successful 3pt goal signal and the Trail will mirror that. If the attempt comes from the Trail's primary, then he will take care of the signal if the goal is made and the Lead does not mirror.

You can find this on page 30 of the 2007-09 NFHS Basketball Officials Manual.
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Old Thu Nov 13, 2008, 10:55am
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Yes, if the Lead marks the 3pt attempt because it came from his primary, then he also gives the successful 3pt goal signal and the Trail will mirror that. If the attempt comes from the Trail's primary, then he will take care of the signal if the goal is made and the Lead does not mirror.

You can find this on page 30 of the 2007-09 NFHS Basketball Officials Manual.
I agree with Nevada. The lead should signal the successful goal and the trail should mirror. This is the only time (that I can think of) when the lead signals for a three-point attempt.

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Old Thu Nov 13, 2008, 11:02am
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So, if it's in the Lead's area, does the Trail mirror just the successful goal, or does he signal the attempt, too?
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Old Thu Nov 13, 2008, 11:06am
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So, if it's in the Lead's area, does the Trail mirror just the successful goal, or does he signal the attempt, too?
Just the successful goal.
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Old Thu Nov 13, 2008, 12:49pm
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This is the only time (that I can think of) when the lead signals for a three-point attempt.

-Josh

What about on a quick steal or fast break where the trail hasn't recognized the change of possession and is too far behind the play to see if it is a three-point attempt or not. In that case would the Lead give the preliminary three-point indication even if the shot were attempted at the top of the key out of the Leads primary area but in a spot where he could still visually see that it was a three-point attempt?
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Old Thu Nov 13, 2008, 12:54pm
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I've had a couple veterans tell me that if I'm Lead and I signal, they won't signal at all as Trail and let me have it the whole way.

But going back to what you guys are talking about: If I'm Trail and the Lead signals, should I never mirror the attempt at all, but just mirror the good 3-point shot instead?
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Old Thu Nov 13, 2008, 01:14pm
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What about on a quick steal or fast break where the trail hasn't recognized the change of possession and is too far behind the play to see if it is a three-point attempt or not. In that case would the Lead give the preliminary three-point indication even if the shot were attempted at the top of the key out of the Leads primary area but in a spot where he could still visually see that it was a three-point attempt?
Someone needs to signal it, and if the T can't, ....

If the T is still in the BC, then the whole FC is the lead's primary.
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Old Thu Nov 13, 2008, 02:54pm
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What about on a quick steal or fast break where the trail hasn't recognized the change of possession and is too far behind the play to see if it is a three-point attempt or not. In that case would the Lead give the preliminary three-point indication even if the shot were attempted at the top of the key out of the Leads primary area but in a spot where he could still visually see that it was a three-point attempt?
Yes. In this situation the old T/new L is nearly always trailing the play closely while the old L/new T is still well down court. So if the shooter is within a foot or so of the line, it is good help for the L to either mark the attempt or give a "2 point shot" signal (if that signal is used in your area). Once the T has picked up the signal, drop it.
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Old Thu Nov 13, 2008, 02:06am
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I agree it maybe an area thing.

Some may want to pre-game this particular situation.
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