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Old Wed Nov 12, 2008, 11:03am
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Free throw violation

A1 is the free throw shooter- B1 is the defense occupying a lane space. B1 steps into the lane early- A1 shoots- completely misses the rim-
My question- is does A1 get to shoot again- this is the 2nd shot of 2.

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Old Wed Nov 12, 2008, 11:07am
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A1 is the free throw shooter- B1 is the defense occupying a lane space. B1 steps into the lane early- A1 shoots- completely misses the rim-
My question- is does A1 get to shoot again- this is the 2nd shot of 2.

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Double violation, unless you say that because of B1 stepping in, A1 was disconcerted and was caused to shoot the airball, then they would get the 2nd shot over! And they would have a good argument for it too!
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Old Wed Nov 12, 2008, 11:09am
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Free Violation

So your saying since its a double violation- you go to the Alternating Possession??
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Old Wed Nov 12, 2008, 11:11am
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If all B1 did was step into the lane early, I've got a double violation. Go AP.
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Old Wed Nov 12, 2008, 11:12am
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yes, if you don't say the shooter was disconcerted and allow them to shoot again, Arrow!
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Old Wed Nov 12, 2008, 11:12am
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So your saying since its a double violation- you go to the Alternating Possession??

Exactly.
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Old Wed Nov 12, 2008, 11:36am
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This is where you would have to judge if A1 was disconcerted. It's (the OP)worded that you have B1 stepping into the lane THEN A1 shooting. Could be/may not be disconcertion...you decide.

But, normally, the ball is in the air when the B1's of the world violate, trying to time the "hit on the rim/backboard". That's double violation and AP
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Old Wed Nov 12, 2008, 12:09pm
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So, you'd call a violation on B-1, if he stepped in right when the ball was going to touch the rim, but happened to fall a hair short?
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Old Wed Nov 12, 2008, 01:02pm
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So, you'd call a violation on B-1, if he stepped in right when the ball was going to touch the rim, but happened to fall a hair short?
If B-1 stepped in after the ball had clearly missed, then it's not a violation because the FT was over.

So, in your scenario, no violation.
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Old Wed Nov 12, 2008, 01:03pm
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So, you'd call a violation on B-1, if he stepped in right when the ball was going to touch the rim, but happened to fall a hair short?
Bill, you and I should both know an official can't possibly see both of those happen at the same time!!
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Old Wed Nov 12, 2008, 01:05pm
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If B-1 stepped in after the ball had clearly missed, then it's not a violation because the FT was over.

So, in your scenario, no violation.
It isn't exact... but this is a case play.

I believe the play in the case book the shooter steps on the line and then B commits a violation.
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Old Wed Nov 12, 2008, 08:00pm
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It isn't exact... but this is a case play.

I believe the play in the case book the shooter steps on the line and then B commits a violation.
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Old Wed Nov 12, 2008, 08:56pm
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Thanks, Nevada! I was away from my books when I posted.
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Old Wed Nov 12, 2008, 09:40pm
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Bill, you and I should both know an official can't possibly see both of those happen at the same time!!
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No because two different officials are watching for each of those things.
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Old Thu Nov 13, 2008, 11:01am
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No because two different officials are watching for each of those things.
Then who decides which happens first?
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