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Old Thu Oct 30, 2008, 11:02am
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What if anything is the call?[/QUOTE]


Traveling if he goes down in control of the ball
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Old Thu Oct 30, 2008, 11:04am
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If he falls and loses control before traveling, no-call.
Head-and-shoulders is a guideline; you still don't call a foul on a defender even if the offense manages to twist his body enough to get his H and S past the defender.
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Old Thu Oct 30, 2008, 11:49am
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Offense initiates, if they fall, sorry about your luck.. They got theirself in that situation, don't expect the officials to bail you out!
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Old Thu Oct 30, 2008, 12:11pm
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On a sidenote: what is the signal for tripping? Is it the same as a kick signal?

I don't see it in the officials manual.
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Old Thu Oct 30, 2008, 12:13pm
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Use the blocking signal.
But don't call it on this play.
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Old Thu Oct 30, 2008, 01:47pm
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Trying to understand the OP. By rule, if the offensive player splits two stationary defenders and the two defenders are less than three feet apart, then the offensive player is responsible for the contact. Is that correct?

So, if we have a good trap set, and the offensive player bulls his way through, should we draw a charge in this situation?
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Old Thu Oct 30, 2008, 01:59pm
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Trying to understand the OP. By rule, if the offensive player splits two stationary defenders and the two defenders are less than three feet apart, then the offensive player is responsible for the contact. Is that correct?

So, if we have a good trap set, and the offensive player bulls his way through, should we draw a charge in this situation?

I'd say only in the situation that the offense puts his head down and hits one a defender in the chest or runs them over. Going between two players is not a charge, but more than likely a travel if he trips over the defender (and the conditions for a travel are met). Notice I said tripped over the defense, not tripped by the defense (if defense initiates contact it's probably going to be a blocking foul). Otherwise... nuttin.
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Trying to understand the OP. By rule, if the offensive player splits two stationary defenders and the two defenders are less than three feet apart, then the offensive player is responsible for the contact. Is that correct?

So, if we have a good trap set, and the offensive player bulls his way through, should we draw a charge in this situation?
If the offensive player displaces a legal defender, then yes, a team control foul may be called.
However, the fact that the offensive player may have made some incidental contact going through, does not protect the defenders from being called for any illegal defensive contact.
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