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Old Mon Oct 27, 2008, 12:26pm
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I know I'm gonna get ripped for going with this philosophy but by using this the coach of the team getting beat will be less mad and the coach winning won't mind backing out of it.
By following that leading team, touch foul program, you are possibly rewarding the mediocrity of the losing team's coaches and players.

At those lower levels, I like to officiate to the skills of the better team. If the lesser team cannot keep up, then the lesser team oughta change coaches and players. I won't help them.
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Old Mon Oct 27, 2008, 12:30pm
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If the lesser team cannot keep up, then the lesser team oughta change coaches and players.
Or schedule comparable teams........
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Old Mon Oct 27, 2008, 12:42pm
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Or schedule comparable teams........
Good point. That's another option.
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Old Mon Oct 27, 2008, 12:48pm
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Good point. That's another option.
I hear all the MAC teams are lining up to schedule Michigan!!

GO GREEN!
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Old Mon Oct 27, 2008, 01:24pm
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Here is the way I see it... I always apply the rhythm, speed, balance and quickness philospy to determine what is a foul and what is not a foul. If the contact does not affect any of those elements it is generally not a foul and is considered incidental. If it does then it is a foul. Better teams can play through more contact than weaker teams.

You can not decide to "make" a coach change his coaching strategies.... that is for the administrators (for the kids/ developmental leagues). At the high school level it is generally sorted out in the years to come. There will be a time when the winning coach team is actually the weaker team and the other coach will have a chance to rub his nose in it if he so desires.
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Old Mon Oct 27, 2008, 02:21pm
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Perhaps I should have made the level of the game clearer. It was a combined 6th and 7th grade team. When the coach of Team A finally backed off the press, Team B actually made it past half court but not much further. The final score differential ended up being 40 points, so my actions didn't cost them a win at all. Not even close. This what not something I arbitrarily did on my own either, my partner and I talked about it at halftime.

So I guess I should have let Team A humiliate Team B?
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Old Mon Oct 27, 2008, 02:30pm
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Perhaps I should have made the level of the game clearer. It was a combined 6th and 7th grade team. When the coach of Team A finally backed off the press, Team B actually made it past half court but not much further. The final score differential ended up being 40 points, so my actions didn't cost them a win at all. Not even close. This what not something I arbitrarily did on my own either, my partner and I talked about it at halftime.

So I guess I should have let Team A humiliate Team B?
Your job is to officiate the rules of basketball. Nothing more.

Once you start worrying about teams/players getting "humiliated"* you enter into very dangerous territory as an official. Would you call fouls on cleanly blocked shots just because the crowd reacts wildly to a kid getting his $%*& stuffed? Would you call a technical on a kid for posterizing another kid on a dunk?

Just blow the whistle when you see an infraction of the rules as you interpret them. Going outside that scope is a slippery slope you don't want to go down.

Just my $0.02.



*outside of unsportsmanlike conduct, of course.

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Old Mon Oct 27, 2008, 02:49pm
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So I guess I should have let Team A humiliate Team B?

Is it your job to protect one team from being humiliated? Absolutely not...

I coach HS football...two weeks ago we lost 55-7 to a team that kept their starters in the entire game trying to score lots of points. We didn't stop them...some parents complained to me after the game about what the other team did, and my response was that OUR kids needed to look in the mirror and decide to get better so that wouldn't happen again. This weekend we beat a team 52-14. We scored on our first 4 possessions and I pulled our starting backfield and played the rest of the game with freshmen and sophomores running the ball. Do I tell them to only run 5 yards and then fall down? Hell no...they have worked hard all season and had a chance to earn the reward for that. The officials just called the game. They didn't start nitpicking us because we were ahead, or nitpicking the team two weeks ago that spanked us...it's not your job to "protect" players from being bad.
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Old Mon Oct 27, 2008, 03:18pm
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So I guess I should have let Team A humiliate Team B?
My final regular season game last year was the two defending National Champions in Christian College Division II of the year before - Kentucky Christian vs. Freewill Baptist .
The half time score 48 - 6, there isn't anything you can do, if Kentucky Christian wants to press the entire game and beat them 82 -10 ( final was actually 88 - 24, (Kentucky's defense was horible in the second half). The only thing youcan do is get the ball in play quickly and keep time moving as fast as you can, you make sure that everyone can play through the contact as much as possible and try to keep the whistle in your mouth and get it over with, pray for no disasters, and get off the floor.

Okay that is college - but if you do anything different for either side you are effecting the outcome of the game and that is exactly what you are not supposed to do.
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