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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 10:52am
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I have no problem with OT discussion, never have complained about it.

My complaint is with basketball threads that are being hijacked with OT crap. And that, there has been an increase in...a huge increase.
I'm probably as guilty of this as anyone; probably a function of a variety of things in my personal life that make me cry out for attention.
Or, I'm just having fun.

Seriously, I'll back off a bit and display a bit more self-control. Mainly because I see your point with hijacking on-topic threads. I can see how it would get frustrating, especially to newer members.

Also because I'm changing jobs here next week and won't have the same amount of taxpayer-funded time to read the board.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 11:01am
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I'm probably as guilty of this as anyone; probably a function of a variety of things in my personal life that make me cry out for attention.
Or, I'm just having fun.

Seriously, I'll back off a bit and display a bit more self-control. Mainly because I see your point with hijacking on-topic threads. I can see how it would get frustrating, especially to newer members.

Also because I'm changing jobs here next week and won't have the same amount of taxpayer-funded time to read the board.
[WARNING: Off-topic follow up question, which may result in thread being hijacked; moderators please stand by]

You still staying in CO? Just another job within the military? Or are you getting out? Enquiring minds want to know.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 11:06am
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[WARNING: Off-topic follow up question, which may result in thread being hijacked; moderators please stand by]

You still staying in CO? Just another job within the military? Or are you getting out? Enquiring minds want to know.
I'll continue working on the same AF base, just in a different building working a different job. I'll be getting a fancier uniform for the next six months.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 02:43pm
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Yeah, but Padgett's question had been answered by that time.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 02:52pm
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Yeah, but Padgett's question had been answered by that time.
Quit with the Yabutz, Snaqs.

Indeed, the question was answered, but when the *stuff* took over, additional discussion or clarification, if desireable, was stifled, particularly for an interested user, or a newer user that wished to know more.

Staying on a topic is certainly better for encouraging lighter users to join in and actively participate.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 03:01pm
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Quit with the Yabutz, Snaqs.

Indeed, the question was answered, but when the *stuff* took over, additional discussion or clarification, if desireable, was stifled, particularly for an interested user, or a newer user that wished to know more.

Staying on a topic is certainly better for encouraging lighter users to join in and actively participate.

Agree, even as a veteran. When I see a bunch of pic's or a bunch of one-line posts I know the thread has gone OT and I don't bother reading through it for usable info.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 03:17pm
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Thank you, gentlemen. That was all I was trying to say. There are many others. I deleted two threads that I started that went down the same path, I was so frustrated by it. It is a slow time, so you try to start a topic that will allow some discussion to develop, only to have it turn to crap.

With that, over!
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 03:40pm
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Quit with the Yabutz, Snaqs.

Indeed, the question was answered, but when the *stuff* took over, additional discussion or clarification, if desireable, was stifled, particularly for an interested user, or a newer user that wished to know more.

Staying on a topic is certainly better for encouraging lighter users to join in and actively participate.
Fair enough. While guilty, I actually agree with this and am making a concerted effort to show some freaking self control. Of course, I won't make a spectacle of my efforts.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 05:42pm
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Well, if Snaqs can make an effort, I suppose I can too.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 06:11pm
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Quit with the Yabutz, Snaqs.

Indeed, the question was answered, but when the *stuff* took over, additional discussion or clarification, if desireable, was stifled, particularly for an interested user, or a newer user that wished to know more.
I happen to think that Snaq's point is perfectly valid. In that particular thread, the question was, "Is there anything wrong with changing shirts, as long as all of the new shirts match?" Once you say no, what else is there to discuss? Notre Dame's green jerseys? How is that any better than a binary joke?

JMHO, but I just don't see it as such a big deal. (And not because I'm a prime participant. I'm not.) Once there's real basketball to talk about, we'll talk about it, with only minor sidetracks.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 06:28pm
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I happen to think that Snaq's point is perfectly valid. In that particular thread, the question was, "Is there anything wrong with changing shirts, as long as all of the new shirts match?" Once you say no, what else is there to discuss? Notre Dame's green jerseys? How is that any better than a binary joke?

JMHO, but I just don't see it as such a big deal. (And not because I'm a prime participant. I'm not.) Once there's real basketball to talk about, we'll talk about it, with only minor sidetracks.
Take those topic to a new, properly labeled thread. When I open a thread under a specific topic that has a new post, I generally expect that new post to be about that topic. When it so often is not, it becomes quite irritating.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 07:09pm
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JMHO, but I just don't see it as such a big deal. (And not because I'm a prime participant. I'm not.) Once there's real basketball to talk about, we'll talk about it, with only minor sidetracks.
Yup. And it's also nobody's business except Brad Batt's. If he thinks it's a problem, he'll either take some action or give new direction to the mods. It sureashell isn't up to me...or anyone else that's posted in this particular thread...to tell anybody what they can or can't post.

Everybody gets an opinion. That doesn't mean that their opinion is gonna become law.

And personally, I ain't about to change my posting habits. If the mods don't like 'em, they can delete my posts...or me. Shrug.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 07:33pm
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I happen to think that Snaq's point is perfectly valid. In that particular thread, the question was, "Is there anything wrong with changing shirts, as long as all of the new shirts match?" Once you say no, what else is there to discuss? Notre Dame's green jerseys? How is that any better than a binary joke?
You have read posts where some legitimately honest questions were asked by a younger/newer official and you have graciously sent them down the path of truth. These were possibly questions that, after achieving all your success, you would never think of asking (again).

The point of this thread is to attempt to keep an original subject [e.g., Changing basketball jerseys] open and welcoming, unmarred by such topics as the Notre Dame green jerseys or the biography of the author of the Notre Dame Fight Song.

This forum is top heavy with experienced and clever officials ready to offer advice and direction. All want to write something here or they would be elsewhere. But, because of the cleverness, we sometimes, inadvertently, type a knee-jerk response which deflects an original thread.
That makes it harder to jump in and for that "honest question" to be asked by new folks.

What the forum needs, as does officiating in general, is some newer/younger folks to ask and be answered. Let's make it easier for them.
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