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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 09:55am
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If past off-seasons are an indicator, and I think they are, Scrappy is correct. There has been an increase in off-topic banter this summer, but no decrease in on-topic discussions.
I have no problem with OT discussion, never have complained about it.

My complaint is with basketball threads that are being hijacked with OT crap. And that, there has been an increase in...a huge increase.

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...most posts here go off topic sooner or later.
Which is exactly the problem.

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It seems inevitable considering the cast of characters that gather here. I, for one, am not bothered by it. To me, it seems pointless wishing this place was something other than what it is. shrug.
Nah, don't hand me that crap when I've seen what it can be and once was. Posters and moderators makes a forum what it is

But evidently neither the posters nor the moderators have any control over anything that's posted here.

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Lame jokes have a place in a forum. They give a forum a sort of personality
Not when they completely hijack a basketball thread.

Those are the ones that need the strongest moderation.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 10:25am
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But evidently neither the posters nor the moderators have any control over anything that's posted here.



Not when they completely hijack a basketball thread.

Those are the ones that need the strongest moderation.
BktBallRef,
C'mon! Don't have control...? Everyone has some form of forum control. What may be lacking is self-control.

If you have a specific with a specific thread, please let me know and I will address it, just like I do when you tell me I screwed up a rule.
But it is not my intent to read every post.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 01:48pm
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BktBallRef,
C'mon! Don't have control...? Everyone has some form of forum control. What may be lacking is self-control.
Sarcasm, mick, in response to BITS observation that "it seems pointless wishing this place was something other than what it is. Obviously, we all have self control. Unfortunately, we're not all using it.

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If you have a specific with a specific thread, please let me know and I will address it, just like I do when you tell me I screwed up a rule.
But it is not my intent to read every post.
Nor do I expect you to. But when I see a hijacked thread and see that a mod has posted in it...

I'm not mod-bashing. I simply think it's out of hand and needs to be addressed.

BTW, I believe there is a General Discussion board on this site, isn't there?

But I will take your advice and notify a mod tonight when I see another hijacked thread.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 01:55pm
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But when I see a hijacked thread and see that a mod has posted in it...
That happens to a lot of us.
That's another reason why I don't throw very large stones.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 01:59pm
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And while I know it's difficult to take seriously any thread Padgett starts, here's an example of a hijacked thread.

Jersey switch?

It starts at Post 8.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 02:28pm
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And while I know it's difficult to take seriously any thread Padgett starts, here's an example of a hijacked thread.

Jersey switch?

It starts at Post 8.
YU.P., it was.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 10:45am
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Nah, don't hand me that crap when I've seen what it can be and once was. Posters and moderators makes a forum what it is

But evidently neither the posters nor the moderators have any control over anything that's posted here.
Poster's have two options, self-censoring and attempting to influence others to self-censor. In order to self censor, the poster must believe going off topic is bad and mindless banter should be eschewed. Apparently that sentiment is not exactly universal. As for exerting influence, how is that going?



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Not when they completely hijack a basketball thread.

Those are the ones that need the strongest moderation.
I've been on other boards where the moderators (I believe you may know one of them?) do a great job of keeping everything on topic. I especially value the volleyball board as it has a much more active base of posters than here and is very informative.

It's also. rather. dull. And don't even get me started on the basketball bored board there. Even the dustups and cat fights are dull. I think that's why so many more of us hang out here. We like it here. And we kinda like it the way it is. Mostly.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 10:52am
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I have no problem with OT discussion, never have complained about it.

My complaint is with basketball threads that are being hijacked with OT crap. And that, there has been an increase in...a huge increase.
I'm probably as guilty of this as anyone; probably a function of a variety of things in my personal life that make me cry out for attention.
Or, I'm just having fun.

Seriously, I'll back off a bit and display a bit more self-control. Mainly because I see your point with hijacking on-topic threads. I can see how it would get frustrating, especially to newer members.

Also because I'm changing jobs here next week and won't have the same amount of taxpayer-funded time to read the board.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 11:01am
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I'm probably as guilty of this as anyone; probably a function of a variety of things in my personal life that make me cry out for attention.
Or, I'm just having fun.

Seriously, I'll back off a bit and display a bit more self-control. Mainly because I see your point with hijacking on-topic threads. I can see how it would get frustrating, especially to newer members.

Also because I'm changing jobs here next week and won't have the same amount of taxpayer-funded time to read the board.
[WARNING: Off-topic follow up question, which may result in thread being hijacked; moderators please stand by]

You still staying in CO? Just another job within the military? Or are you getting out? Enquiring minds want to know.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 11:06am
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[WARNING: Off-topic follow up question, which may result in thread being hijacked; moderators please stand by]

You still staying in CO? Just another job within the military? Or are you getting out? Enquiring minds want to know.
I'll continue working on the same AF base, just in a different building working a different job. I'll be getting a fancier uniform for the next six months.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 02:43pm
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Yeah, but Padgett's question had been answered by that time.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 02:52pm
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Yeah, but Padgett's question had been answered by that time.
Quit with the Yabutz, Snaqs.

Indeed, the question was answered, but when the *stuff* took over, additional discussion or clarification, if desireable, was stifled, particularly for an interested user, or a newer user that wished to know more.

Staying on a topic is certainly better for encouraging lighter users to join in and actively participate.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 03:01pm
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Quit with the Yabutz, Snaqs.

Indeed, the question was answered, but when the *stuff* took over, additional discussion or clarification, if desireable, was stifled, particularly for an interested user, or a newer user that wished to know more.

Staying on a topic is certainly better for encouraging lighter users to join in and actively participate.

Agree, even as a veteran. When I see a bunch of pic's or a bunch of one-line posts I know the thread has gone OT and I don't bother reading through it for usable info.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 03:40pm
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Quit with the Yabutz, Snaqs.

Indeed, the question was answered, but when the *stuff* took over, additional discussion or clarification, if desireable, was stifled, particularly for an interested user, or a newer user that wished to know more.

Staying on a topic is certainly better for encouraging lighter users to join in and actively participate.
Fair enough. While guilty, I actually agree with this and am making a concerted effort to show some freaking self control. Of course, I won't make a spectacle of my efforts.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 06:11pm
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Quit with the Yabutz, Snaqs.

Indeed, the question was answered, but when the *stuff* took over, additional discussion or clarification, if desireable, was stifled, particularly for an interested user, or a newer user that wished to know more.
I happen to think that Snaq's point is perfectly valid. In that particular thread, the question was, "Is there anything wrong with changing shirts, as long as all of the new shirts match?" Once you say no, what else is there to discuss? Notre Dame's green jerseys? How is that any better than a binary joke?

JMHO, but I just don't see it as such a big deal. (And not because I'm a prime participant. I'm not.) Once there's real basketball to talk about, we'll talk about it, with only minor sidetracks.
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