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Old Thu Aug 21, 2008, 02:01pm
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I am only talking to you because I get a certain level of entertainment out of it. I do not need to dance around anything. What ever I think, my life will not change as a result either way. And I had every opportunity to ask Welmer the questions I wanted to when he talked about this in detail. I personally am not going to share what I think to someone that knows every damn thing.

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Would you agree that he want's Game Management started by his crew on the very first call of the game?
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Old Thu Aug 21, 2008, 02:04pm
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Smile Sorry for the typo.

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Would you agree that he want's Game Management started by his crew on the very first call of the game?
LOL!!!

You are trying waaayyyyyy too hard.

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Old Thu Aug 21, 2008, 02:08pm
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LOL!!!

You are trying waaayyyyyy too hard.

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No not really. It’s an honest question. I’m trying to get this GM stuff figured out.
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Old Thu Aug 21, 2008, 02:10pm
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No not really. It’s an honest question. I’m trying to get this GM stuff figured out.
Go read the other thread and you might figure it out.

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Old Thu Aug 21, 2008, 02:19pm
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Go read the other thread and you might figure it out.

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I'll stick w/ the game management philosophy of a guy who works more D1 games than anybody in the country. Seems to be a pretty successful path.
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Old Thu Aug 21, 2008, 02:31pm
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I'll stick w/ the game management philosophy of a guy who works more D1 games than anybody in the country. Seems to be a pretty successful path.
You do not even realize what you are disagreeing with. I never said to listen to me or what I do exactly what I say. Also there was much more to the talk from Welmer about this "philosophy" than what you heard from a minute statement.

Just this past summer I went to two camps where almost every clinician was a D1 official. I went to another where the camp is run by a D1 Official and I attend that camp every year. There is more to their success then one philosophy pulled out of context. Maybe you should read my signature and the quote. The person that made those statements is a good friend of Welmer and also has his ideas of what works. After all he helps pick or identify officials for the NCAA Tournament. Then again, you probably do not understand that quote either.

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Old Thu Aug 21, 2008, 02:49pm
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You do not even realize what you are disagreeing with. I never said to listen to me or what I do exactly what I say. Also there was much more to the talk from Welmer about this "philosophy" than what you heard from a minute statement.
Huh???
I’m not disagreeing with you about anything. I asked for your opinion. You don’t want to say anything and I suspect it’s because you don’t agree with it. I’ve heard his talks multiple times and he has philosophies on end of half, beginning of second half, end of game etc…. Don’t duck out by saying I “took it out of context”.

I’m just curious if you agree with it?

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Just this past summer I went to two camps where almost every clinician was a D1 official. I went to another where the camp is run by a D1 Official and I attend that camp every year. There is more to their success then one philosophy pulled out of context. Maybe you should read my signature and the quote. The person that made those statements is a good friend of Welmer and also has his ideas of what works. After all he helps pick or identify officials for the NCAA Tournament.
Didn't pull anything out of context.

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Then again, you probably do not understand that quote either.
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We should work a game together.
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Old Thu Aug 21, 2008, 09:12pm
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What Does He Do At A Neutral Site Game ???

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I'll stick w/ the game management philosophy of a guy who works more D1 games than anybody in the country. Seems to be a pretty successful path.
The highest level I've ever officiated is high school varsity. I've done a few league semifinals and finals, never a state tournament game. I've been doing this for twenty seven years, and I've never differentiated between the home or visiting team, and I've never heard anyone representing the NFHS, or IAABO, suggest that we do.
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Old Thu Aug 21, 2008, 11:20pm
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I'll stick w/ the game management philosophy of a guy who works more D1 games than anybody in the country. Seems to be a pretty successful path.
Mu4Scott,

I am
not trying to attack you in any way. That's not what I post on here for, but I should have guessed that you would listen to philosophies like Steve Welmer. You know if you put him in the breakdown system like they have for the NBA, I would bet he gets maybe 70% of his plays right. Steve is a great communicator and that's how he gets those 100 game seasons. I on the other hand am not working games for the coaches, I'm working for the players and the game. I believe you should be a great communicator but playcalling should be first.

Also I hope you know that Steve welmer does not work in the ACC as far as I know, he was fired from the SEC and he has never worked past the sweet 16. I respect the man as a communicator but not as an overall GREAT referee. My opinion.

Like I said in the other thread about game mgmt, the term needs to be revamped. There are RARE instances when you should call a foul for game mgmt reasons.
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