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Need clarification on moving/illegal screen
So I always thought a moving screen is when player A sets a screen on player B and after contact is made continues to ride and hinder B's movement. Pretty clear cut.
The other day while playing in a tournament, I was called for multiple illegal screens but I didn't make contact with anyone. First time, what happened was my teammate received the ball at the 3 point line in the corner. His man was under the basket and started running out at him to contest the shot... I set myself up for a screen a good 8 ft in front of the defender. He saw me so changed directions to try at get around me but as he did I shuffled over and reset my pick (w/o making contact) forcing him to go even farther outside around me. By that time my teammate got the shot off... don't remember if it went in or not but it didn't matter cuz I was called for an illegal screen The 2nd time that I recall getting called for an illegal screen... well to be honest I'm pretty sure I deserved to be called for it but just want to ask to make sure. It was the same situation, my teammate open at the corner, his defender closing in on him.... I set a screen and the defender tries to run around my left, I slide over and reset the pick. He then tries to run around my right, once again I slide over and reset the pick. Finally he tries one more time to my left and I slide over again. we're both just face to face kinda shuffling left and right mirror images of eachother. Keep in mind this entire time we havne't made contact at all. I was called for the foul again. I need some people to help me out and let me know if A) I am doing something illegal and need to stop or B) I should keep playing how I play and chalk it up to bad officiating Last edited by CKEINB; Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 03:20am. |
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As long as there is no contact there can be no foul. The defininition of screening is somewhat lengthy but the key thing is that when setting a screen time and distance is a factor. MTD, Sr. P.S. But if this were a soccer game you would have been guilty of obstruction and your opponent would have been awarded an indirect free kick.
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No contact = No personal foul. It's really that simple. (A player can only be called for a technical foul without contacting an opposing player.)
If your descriptions of the plays are accurate, then the official penalizing you for an illegal screen is not correct. To set a legal screen you must be stationary at the time of contact, and you must give proper time and distance to a moving opponent to avoid you (never more than two strides). |
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It would seem the laws of screening slightly favor the screener, but while you are *dancing* with one defender, I wonder what the other defender(s) was doing. |
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Another Myth Bites The Dust ...
A moving screen is not in and of itself a foul, contact must occur for a foul to be called. If a blind screen is set on a stationary defender, the defender must be given one normal step to change direction and attempt to avoid contact. If a screen is set on a moving defender, the defender gets a minimum of one step and a maximum of two steps, depending on the speed and distance of the defender.
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The NCAA definition:
A screen is legal action by any player, offensive or defensive, with or without the ball, which, without causing contact, delays or prevents an opponent from reaching a desired position. I think the key to an illegal screen is judging whether the screener "caused" the contact. A screen has 2 parts, the player setting the screen and the player getting screened for, who needs to rub shoulders with the screener for it to be effective. Most illegal screens occur when the wings are lazy coming off the screen causing the screener to shift at the last second and pick off the defender in an effort to do their job. |
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Therefore, my diction implied that the players in question were not running in the same path and direction. |
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