How Would You Explain This To A Coach?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Zebra06

Sorry about that... the coach felt that the timeout should not have been awarded since A was nearing the 10-second count.

Tell the coach that they did away with that concept 25 years ago.

Originally Posted by Zebra06

Also what would you refer to in order to show that a new 10-count would be allowed when play is resumed? This is different from the latest in the NBA from what I heard broadcasters saying during the NBA Playoffs. They get 8 seconds TOTAL, even if that 8 seconds is broken up by a timeout. Or at least that's what I was hearing the tv broadcasters saying.

This casebook play:

9.8 SITUATION C: After A1 has dribbled for nine seconds in A's backcourt: (a) A1 requests a time-out; or (b) B1 deflects the ball out of bounds. RULING: In both (a) and (b), Team A will have 10 seconds to advance the ball to frontcourt following the throw-in if a player of Team A gains control in A's backcourt.

You are correct about the NBA rule. It is a hard 8 seconds. They also can't throw the ball into the backcourt on a throw-in from adjacent to the frontcourt until the final two minutes of the 4th quarter. Neither of those concepts apply at the HS level.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Tell the coach that they did away with that concept 25 years ago.

I haven't thought about the old Change of Status rule in a long time. I believe that the old rule stated that a team could not be granted a timeout when 80% of a count had been achieved, eight seconds of a ten second count, four seconds of a five second count (inbounding, closely guarded).

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I believe that the old rule stated that a team could not be granted a timeout when 80% of a count had been achieved, eight seconds of a ten second count, four seconds of a five second count (inbounding, closely guarded).

You believe correctly. I believe that it was longer than 25 years ago though. That one was long gone by 1983.

[Zebra06]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Tell the coach that they did away with that concept 25 years ago.



This casebook play:

9.8 SITUATION C: After A1 has dribbled for nine seconds in A's backcourt: (a) A1 requests a time-out; or (b) B1 deflects the ball out of bounds. RULING: In both (a) and (b), Team A will have 10 seconds to advance the ball to frontcourt following the throw-in if a player of Team A gains control in A's backcourt.

Thanks Nevadaref, that's one thing I really wanted to see!

[bob jenkins]

If you know the rule is different in some other rules set, and the coach is "friendly", I find it helpful to say something like, "You're right -- that is the rule in the NBA. Here, we're using highschool rules (I almost never say "FED rules" -- they don't know what that means), and the rules are different. In high school, the team gets a new 10-second count."

If the coach isn't being too friendly, I use the "5 words or fewer" rule: This isn't the NBA, coach.

[Mark Padgett]

"Get a rulebook, coach. They have them now in all one syllable words with lots of pictures so you shouldn't have any trouble understanding it - and...I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here."