Is this "over"-officiating?

[Adam]

While I agree you wouldn't normally be there (tough to disagree with the obvious, even for a skeptic like me), and that a T might not be appropriate.

I think what you did do is appropriate. Summer league 8th grade ball, I think we get some extra lattitude to deal with these things.

If you ignore it, it shows both kids that no one is watching.

I think of the cutoff as the point at which the next two teams start warming up and the clock is counting down (in this case 5:00.) It's somewhat arbitrary, but it makes sense to me. In this case, I think the situation was prior to this cutoff, but a T is at least debatable.

I would, however, add that the score isn't relevant, I don't think, to whether you should call this T. The benefits to calling it go beyond the freethrows; especially in leagues that track them and suspend accordingly.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I would, however, add that the score isn't relevant, I don't think, to whether you should call this T. The benefits to calling it go beyond the freethrows; especially in leagues that track them and suspend accordingly.

Gotta agree here. The purpose of summer leagues is for kids to learn. One thing they should learn is sportsmanship. I think I would tell the scorer to record it, tell the coach it was called and mention to him that it might be a good idea to discuss it with the player. I think if you maintain the right attitude about it, the coach should appreciate the heads up.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Gotta agree here. The purpose of summer leagues is for kids to learn. One thing they should learn is sportsmanship. I think I would tell the scorer to record it, tell the coach it was called and mention to him that it might be a good idea to discuss it with the player. I think if you maintain the right attitude about it, the coach should appreciate the heads up.

I agree, but giving a T is not going to necessarily teach sportsmanship. I have no problem if an official helps restore order (if you want to), but penalizing a situation that normally would be over is something else. Unless the league has special rules to handle after game situations, then OK.

Peace

[Raymond]

I leave it alone in this environment. For all you know the 2 kids could be cousins or best friends or whatever and it's just their way of 'funning' each other.

As stated, in normal circumstances you would not have been there. During off-season ball, I always make it a point to either stay completely clear of the table until both teams have vacated the area or I walk around and go directly to the bleachers or officials' sitting area. In the summer I want no part of what goes on after the final horn blows.