Is this "over"-officiating?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

What's really sad is someone who makes these bitter nasty comments about people simply because he disagrees with them. I would say you're the Barney Fife of officiating but at least old Barney was likeable. You're like the evil Barney Fife of officiating.

Anyway, instead of walking through the handshake line what I usually do in these situations is to walk around the bench to the table area or if that's not possible I'll wait at midcourt for the teams to end the handshake line before going to my seat. Someone else mentioned these kids may have been friends just goofing around, that's true often enough and you really don't want to make yourself look like the evil Barney here. If it seemed like they were serious I would do what you did but I would not throw Ts. Just break it up & move on to the next game.

The point isn't that you have to throw a T under the circumstances given. I already acknowledged the possible futility of such a penalty in a summer game. It depends upon how the tournament or league is structured. Apparently you missed my writing that. In the future if you tried reading my words instead of spending your time coming up with silly references to TV shows that ended long before I was born, you wouldn't look like such an old fool.

The real point is that you would actually address the kid's behavior in some manner rather than run away and stick your head in the corner and pretend that you didn't see it as Rut would. You told the OP that what he did was fine. I happen to agree, but that's a far cry from "let it go" and "let the coaches and administrators take care of it" which is what Rut wrote.

Lastly, I have to believe that any reasonable person can tell the difference between two friends clowning around and a negative act. That's not too hard.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

The point isn't that you have to throw a T under the circumstances given.

Thanks for the feedback Barney but if you actually read my post you'll see my comments to you are not concerning how you handle this particualr situation. My comments to you are simply concerning your nasty remarks.

[Nevadaref]

And your remarks are always so pleasant.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

BS. You just don't deal with it because you don't want to.

You're exactly right. In the summertime I'm dealing with unorganized teams, fill-in coaches, a 60-70% per game pay-cut, and fans who can appear on the court out of nowhere; I'm not watching post-game activities. I'm leaving the court to pack my sh!t or I'm finding a sit so I can rest up for the next game. I handle my business on the court and put an end to any extracuricular bullcrap before it has a chance to bleed into the post-game hand-shake.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

That's the easy path which Rut also travels. A sad way to go through life.

What an idiotic statement! No further comment needed.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

You're exactly right. In the summertime I'm dealing with unorganized teams, fill-in coaches, a 60-70% per game pay-cut, and fans who can appear on the court out of nowhere; I'm not watching post-game activities. I'm leaving the court to pack my sh!t or I'm finding a sit so I can rest up for the next game. I handle my business on the court and put an end to any extracuricular bullcrap before it has a chance to bleed into the post-game hand-shake.

Exactly.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

What an idiotic statement! No further comment needed.

This is why I left it alone.

Peace

[icallfouls]

Personally, given the situation as described, it was handled properly. In a summer league game, where you might also be working the next game, what value is there in getting out the whistle and t'ing anything that moves? If it was that big of a deal, mention something to the coaches, game administration, and let them deal with it. Assignor's don't want their referee's hanging around looking for stuff to call after the game is over.

Hey Nevada, did you hear that assistant coach in the 87th row whisper how terribly you called the game? You freaking hear/see everything. What a power trip. I am glad you are NOT a police officer, you'd have everyone locked up.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by icallfouls

Hey Nevada, did you hear that assistant coach in the 87th row whisper how terribly you called the game?

Apples and oranges my nondistinguishing friend. Let me spell it out for you since you are having trouble comprehending.

Go reread the prior posts.

I'm advocating dealing with unsporting conduct that takes place RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU as you are leaving the court following the final horn while Rut is saying to ignore it.

That's a far cry from something up in the 87th row.

So don't insult me and make comments about a power trip when you are the one taking great liberties with your examples.

[icallfouls]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Apples and oranges my nondistinguishing friend. Let me spell it out for you since you are having trouble comprehending.

Go reread the prior posts.

I'm advocating dealing with unsporting conduct that takes place RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU as you are leaving the court following the final horn while Rut is saying to ignore it.

That's a far cry from something up in the 87th row.

So don't insult me and make comments about a power trip when you are the one taking great liberties with your examples.

Again, you are missing what is being said. The reference to the 87th row, is that you are so wrapped up with literal interpretations, you go out looking for things to call, hence the power trip. You see and hear everything. So much by the book that your ability to use common sense is lost. The game was over in the OP, anything he would have done by sounding his whistle would not have made things any better. I call it good and I agree with Rut and others on this one.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by icallfouls

Again, you are missing what is being said. The reference to the 87th row, is that you are so wrapped up with literal interpretations, you go out looking for things to call, hence the power trip. You see and hear everything. So much by the book that your ability to use common sense is lost. The game was over in the OP, anything he would have done by sounding his whistle would not have made things any better. I call it good and I agree with Rut and others on this one.

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[ODJ]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

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[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by ODJ

The best ever is Post's Sugar Puffs cereal.

Do you mean Sugar Crisp (aka Golden Crisp)?

[Lcubed48]

Originally Posted by ODJ

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Crisp

Pick your fav!

[Mark Padgett]

I remember Wild Bill Hickok on television (Guy Madison) singing this commercial:

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They're shot with sugar, through and through
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That's back when sugar was good for you.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

I remember Wild Bill Hickok on television.

Me too.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Me too.

Someone else mentioned Floyd the barber in another post. Howard McNair, who played Floyd, was a regular on the Wild Bill Hickok radio program.

Now how the heck did I know that?