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Old Fri May 02, 2008, 08:51am
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Backcourt on throw-in

A1 throw-in from frontcourt base-line. B1 deflects throw-in in f/c followed by A2, with f/c status, deflecting ball which then goes into backcourt. Can Team A retrieve the ball in the backcourt? Is there a difference between NCAA or NFHS since in NCAA there is team control on a throw-in?

I know that in both rule sets that if B1 deflects the throw-in A2 cannot jump from the f/c, catch the ball in the air, then land in the b/c because the throw-in ended when B1 deflected the ball and thus the b/c exemption would no longer apply.
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Old Fri May 02, 2008, 09:17am
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A1 throw-in from frontcourt base-line. B1 deflects throw-in in f/c followed by A2, with f/c status, deflecting ball which then goes into backcourt. Can Team A retrieve the ball in the backcourt? Is there a difference between NCAA or NFHS since in NCAA there is team control on a throw-in?
No violation as team control was not established until after the ball made it to the backcourt.
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Old Fri May 02, 2008, 09:31am
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A1 throw-in from frontcourt base-line. B1 deflects throw-in in f/c followed by A2, with f/c status, deflecting ball which then goes into backcourt. Can Team A retrieve the ball in the backcourt? Is there a difference between NCAA or NFHS since in NCAA there is team control on a throw-in?
You are correct that there is team control during a throw-in in NCAA (dumb rule), but there are exceptions in place so that your play is legal. (NCAA 4-3-5 and 4-3-6)

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Old Fri May 02, 2008, 09:32am
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No violation as team control was not established until after the ball made it to the backcourt.
I can see that for NFHS. But in NCAA there is team control. And B1 deflecting the ball ends the throw-in. So I guess I'm more wondering if this would be a b/c violation in NCAA.
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Old Fri May 02, 2008, 09:34am
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I had a similar play last night in a HS spring league. A1 has a FC endline throw-in deflected into the BC by A3 then A3 runs to pick up the ball... I had nothing, well except a new 10 second count (much to the surprise of my 2 veteran partners). At the next TO my reply was simply "although the throw-in ended on the deflection, there is no team control on a throw-in, TC began when A3 possessed the ball".

I believe the same holds true in your sitch.

Not sure about NCAA...
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Old Fri May 02, 2008, 12:41pm
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I can see that for NFHS. But in NCAA there is team control. And B1 deflecting the ball ends the throw-in. So I guess I'm more wondering if this would be a b/c violation in NCAA.
No violation in NCAA
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Old Sat May 03, 2008, 11:57am
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No violation in NCAA
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