Erroneous info

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

Ok, since I didn't know that he provided erroneous info until after the basket was made, nothing can done to fix it except dont f&%# it up to begin with. Is that correct?

You need to watch your partner signal prior to the FT. You already admitted that you goofed by not doing so. Unfortunate, but not something that you should be crucified over.

I guess that you could have realized that something was wrong when only one player went after the rebound and sounded the whistle at that time. The action could have clued you in that your partner did something incorrect. Just a thought.

I'm confused how you came up with giving the ball to Team B and taking the basket away from Team A, since it was A5 who got the rebound. You just gave Team B a free rebound without making them pay for it in any way, such as with the AP arrow.

I could understand an official saying that the ball became dead prior to the goal due to the mistake and thus no basket, but still Team A retains possession when the game resumes since that team did get the rebound. It wouldn't be truly correct, but it would be a reasonable ruling for an official who didin't know the case play with great precision.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I guess that you could have realized that something was wrong when only one player went after the rebound and sounded the whistle at that time. The action could have clued you in that your partner did something incorrect. Just a thought.

I know huh Sound the whistle, find out what my partner said, go to AP

I'm confused how you came up with giving the ball to Team B and taking the basket away from Team A, since it was A5 who got the rebound. You just gave Team B a free rebound without making them pay for it in any way, such as with the AP arrow.

Right! It was just a wake-up call. Apparently I need to be in the rule book during the off-season as well!

I could understand an official saying that the ball became dead prior to the goal due to the mistake and thus no basket, but still Team A retains possession when the game resumes since that team did get the rebound. It wouldn't be truly correct, but it would be a reasonable ruling for an official who didin't know the case play with great precision.

I gotcha... I guess it's better to learn that lesson now than in a more critical environment later.
Thanks!!!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

I gotcha... I guess it's better to learn that lesson now than in a more critical environment later.
Thanks!!!

That's what summer ball is for, right?

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

That's what summer ball is for, right?

I guess so. But I just hate making simple mistakes. Since I learned from it & if I don't make the same mistake again... it's not such a bad thing.

I learned 3 things: How to properly handle that situation. How to eliminate or slim down the chances of it occuring. And admitting unnoticed errors to partners increases your credibility.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

I guess so. But I just hate making simple mistakes. Since I learned from it & if I don't make the same mistake again... it's not such a bad thing.

I learned 3 things: How to properly handle that situation. How to eliminate or slim down the chances of it occuring. And admitting unnoticed errors to partners increases your credibility.

Excellent. I hope that you are a better official today than you were yesterday. That is something for which all of us should be constantly striving.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

That's what summer ball is for, right?

Summer ball?!?!? It's supposed to snow here tomorrow.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Summer ball?!?!? It's supposed to snow here tomorrow.

Well, I work fairly near Ch1town, and it was snowing as I arrived at work this morning. Snow's gone now, though.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I could understand an official saying that the ball became dead prior to the goal due to the mistake and thus no basket, but still Team A retains possession when the game resumes since that team did get the rebound. It wouldn't be truly correct, but it would be a reasonable ruling for an official who didin't know the case play with great precision.

I don't understand this one, Nevada. How can this be the right move? Particularly, if you're going to negate the shot (the "right" thing to do, even though it's not the "correct" thing), how do you give the ball to A without going to the arrow? It doesn't make sense.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I don't understand this one, Nevada. How can this be the right move? Particularly, if you're going to negate the shot (the "right" thing to do, even though it's not the "correct" thing), how do you give the ball to A without going to the arrow? It doesn't make sense.

Adam,
All that I was saying there is that if an official isn't aware of the precise way to handle the situation as detailed in the case book, I could certainly see an official ruling the ball dead just after the rebound, thus negating the goal, and then going to the POI to resume the game. That would give the ball to Team A as they had team control at the time. Not saying that it is the correct NFHS ruling, but I do think that it makes some sense.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Adam,
All that I was saying there is that if an official isn't aware of the precise way to handle the situation as detailed in the case book, I could certainly see an official ruling the ball dead just after the rebound, thus negating the goal, and then going to the POI to resume the game. That would give the ball to Team A as they had team control at the time. Not saying that it is the correct NFHS ruling, but I do think that it makes some sense.

I get it. You see this as one (not necessarily the only) way to understandably screw this up.