Switching from mens to womens

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

So essentially your ONLY reason to switch to calling NCAAW is because you think you would move into the "big-time" faster, is that correct???

Bwahahahahahahahaha...sorry, but that always makes me crack up. So here's the deal - the assignors and conference supervisors on the NCAAW side are NOT complete morons. They will watch you work at a camp, like (probably) what they see, and want to talk with you about working for them. After about 5 minutes, they will realize that you are just another one of the arrogant people who think NCAAW is "easier" than NCAAM and that you don't really want to work NCAAW, but think that doing it for a few years - at the highest level, of course - will pad your resume enough so that the NCAAM supervisors will want to snatch you right up. And then they will politely tell you to take a hike.

On the other hand, maybe some of the NCAAW supervisors will give you a shot and start giving you games. Won't take long for your partners to see where you are coming from, and then nobody will want to work with you.

Best case scenario is that you get hired, work some games, get along with everyone and do a good job...and then the NCAAM supervisors won't be interested because you work NCAAW games.

Unless you really want to work NCAAW ball, stay the hell away.

Then maybe clinicians shoudn't make statements like "that someone like me--minority, young, runs fast--would move up the ladder on the D1 women's side really quickly."

I was at a D3 conference camp last summer and a clinician asked me if I would be interested in working Women's ball to "get my foot in the door" and then maybe move over to the Men's side after a couple of seasons.

[JRutledge]

At least in my experience working Women's basketball does not endear yourself to Men's basketball. One many levels it might set you back because many I have come in contact with do not want women's officials working on the men's side. Now maybe there are people that have got away with it without being noticed, but mostly when they find out it seems to hurt them.

Also it was also in my experience that working women's ball is a lot easier to advance than men's ball. There was a female referee (who I showed a picture of awhile back) that moved into my area and got a full college schedule right off the bat. Granted she is a very good official, but I do not know a single men's official that did the same and had 20-30 college games.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Then maybe clinicians shoudn't make statements like "that someone like me--minority, young, runs fast--would move up the ladder on the D1 women's side really quickly."

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That is probably a very true statement. Young, minority officials have a very good shot at moving up quickly...but NOT young, minority officials who are only doing it so they can move over to the Men's side in a couple of seasons. I have seen plenty of the first example, and plenty of the second in my years...the first example do tend to move up fast and have very good careers. The second tend to be gone from D-I officiating in a couple of seasons. JMO, based on my observations.

[BillyMac]

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