Assault

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by TheOracle

Morally, it was the right thing to do to walk away. It takes a big person to do that. I only wanted to point out to the folks who want the book thrown at the coach or for Chi to bring a civil suit against the coach that none of that will be fruitful within the legal system. The coach may pay a small fine based on a misdemeanor but never go to jail, and never lose a civil case.

I have no further questions your honor.........

California (Basketball) – Dontravian Evans, 29, received a sentence of nine months in jail following his felony assault conviction for punching a referee at a recreational basketball game in Long Beach. In addition to the jail sentence, Evans received three years probation and must pay $3,400 to the victim, referee Kevin Robinson, for medical bills. The incident happened on 9/13/00, early in the game when the score was only 2-0. Evans, who was upset about a call, struck Robinson when he was looking at the scorers' table. Robinson didn't see the punch coming. The blow caused permanent damage to Robinson's eye. (September 2002)

[TheOracle]

Originally Posted by fullor30

I have no further questions your honor.........

California (Basketball) – Dontravian Evans, 29, received a sentence of nine months in jail following his felony assault conviction for punching a referee at a recreational basketball game in Long Beach. In addition to the jail sentence, Evans received three years probation and must pay $3,400 to the victim, referee Kevin Robinson, for medical bills. The incident happened on 9/13/00, early in the game when the score was only 2-0. Evans, who was upset about a call, struck Robinson when he was looking at the scorers' table. Robinson didn't see the punch coming. The blow caused permanent damage to Robinson's eye. (September 2002)

Circumstances there are quite different, my friend. I'm sure Chi will let everyone know how his situation turns out, and I hope that coach gets banned forever from coaching basketball.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by TheOracle

Circumstances there are quite different, my friend. I'm sure Chi will let everyone know how his situation turns out, and I hope that coach gets banned forever from coaching basketball.

First, I'm not your friend. Secondly, why are they different? An official gets punched. Pretty cut and dry.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by TheOracle

Circumstances there are quite different, my friend. I'm sure Chi will let everyone know how his situation turns out, and I hope that coach gets banned forever from coaching basketball.

How's this one then......

BASKETBALL – Eighteen-year-old Ryan Clark, Temecula, Calif., will spend a year behind bars for punching a basketball referee during a 2003 youth game. Clark pleaded guilty to assault with great bodily injury and two other unrelated misdemeanors Jan. 28, 2004, at the Southwest Justice Center in French Valley. The sentence was part of a plea deal in which three other charges were dropped. In addition to jail-time, Clark must serve three years of probation, attend anger counseling and he can’t go to any athletic events without his parole officer. The victim, referee Todd Hombs, said in court that the punch left him with a slightly dislocated jaw and that he had headaches for six months after the blow.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by fullor30

First, I'm not your friend. Secondly, why are they different? An official gets punched. Pretty cut and dry.

I can't believe I'm going to defend Oracle, but...these are different circumstances. That was a sucker-punch that resulted in permanent injury. Ch1's was a punch coming out of a confrontation that, as far as Ch1 has indicated, has had no lasting impact.

That said, I'm certainly not saying that Ch1 doesn't have a case. Just that the circumstances are indeed different.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by fullor30

In addition to jail-time, Clark must serve three years of probation, attend anger counseling and he can’t go to any athletic events without his parole officer.

I hope this is his parole officer.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

I can't believe I'm going to defend Oracle, but...these are different circumstances. That was a sucker-punch that resulted in permanent injury. Ch1's was a punch coming out of a confrontation that, as far as Ch1 has indicated, has had no lasting impact.

That said, I'm certainly not saying that Ch1 doesn't have a case. Just that the circumstances are indeed different.

I don't think Ch1 has legal representation yet and the effects of a punch to the jaw may surface later if his attorney is any good.

How's this work for you......no jail time but a few drachma, another area the the oracle claims can't happen.

BASKETBALL - A basketball referee was punched by a player from Samuel Hancock Christian School, Redding, California, following an ejection and subsequent argument with the player's aunt. The incident ended up in a civil, out of court settlement of $43,500. The were no criminal charges filed. (11/8/97)

You physically assault someone and you're going to pay, no matter where you are.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

I hope this is his parole officer.

Worse yet, his cell mate. "I'm your new hubby"

[jdw3018]

I'm with you, 100%. This guy was wrong and should - and most likely will - pay in some way (financially, maybe; criminally, most likely).

But each and every circumstance is different and each state has different laws that apply, especially in terms of civil liability.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

I can't believe I'm going to defend Oracle, but...these are different circumstances. That was a sucker-punch that resulted in permanent injury. Ch1's was a punch coming out of a confrontation that, as far as Ch1 has indicated, has had no lasting impact.

That said, I'm certainly not saying that Ch1 doesn't have a case. Just that the circumstances are indeed different.

You missed the point..........you attack an official and there are consequences that can involve jail time along compensation.

Every case is different.................obviously.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by fullor30

You missed the point..........

No, I didn't.

The circumstances were quite different between the two incidents. That's all I was saying.

[Drizzle]

Horrible story, I hope he gets what he deserves.

Some states have special laws that increase the punishment if the assaultee is an official, not sure which jurisdictions have that kind of clause though.

[TheOracle]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

No, I didn't.

The circumstances were quite different between the two incidents. That's all I was saying.

That's all I said, too. Personally, I think it would be great if that coach lost every penny he had for being a hothead and hitting someone over words after a basketball game. Or spend some time in County jail.

Sucker punch that causes major injury without verbal provocation? Ca-ching. Not this. Don't waste your time and efforts, Chi. Let it run its course through the criminal court, try and get the coach/team/program banned or sanctioned, and move on with life.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by TheOracle

Sucker punch that causes major injury without verbal provocation? Ca-ching. Not this. Don't waste your time and efforts, Chi. Let it run its course through the criminal court, try and get the coach/team/program banned or sanctioned, and move on with life.

You could be right, but there's no way for you to know this for sure. Chi should at least consult a reputable attorney with experience in this kind of civil suit. It's possible he could win big time with the right attorney in the right venue. And it would be worth winning small if only as a warning to other hot-head folks who might think twice in the future before they hit a defenseless official who was only doing their job.

[Adam]

Verbal response is not the same as physical battery. Verbal response does not justify physical battery. Otherwise, Ch1town could have just punched the coach the first time he said, "F you, B$!%#"

Coach deserves jail time and civil penalties. A 7 game suspension is just stupid and gutless.