UCLA team control foul

[BktBallRef]

Although some Texas_Aggie fans disagree...

...they made the correct call.

[mightyvol]

Did anyone see this? And if soo, I would like to hear what the veterans have to say about it. Thanks.

http://www.texags.com/main/forum.rep...800&forum_id=7

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by mightyvol

Did anyone see this?

Aparently, yes.

And if soo, I would like to hear what the veterans have to say about it. Thanks.

http://www.texags.com/main/forum.rep...800&forum_id=7

Can't tell much from a picture. Even if the call was missed (and I have no idea what was or wasn't called and whther it was missed or not), so what?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by mightyvol

Did anyone see this? And if soo, I would like to hear what the veterans have to say about it. Thanks.

http://www.texags.com/main/forum.rep...800&forum_id=7

The "Not A Foul" photo looks like a foul, unless there's something missing in the photo, like a travel, player control foul, three seconds, etc., before the photo. It may also be a multiple foul, which is seldom, if ever, called.

The "Foul" photo? I'd like to see if there was any body contact below the frame of the photo. Can't say without more information.

How many calls, and no calls, did the officials get right in this game? How many calls, or no calls, did they get wrong. How many mistakes were made by the players in the game? How many decisions were wrong by the coaches? I'll bet the ratio of correct calls to incorrect calls by the officials was a lot higher than the ratio of unforced mistakes by the players and coaches. Until you officiated a game of this magnitude, I wouldn't make a lot of comments on the officiating. What's that saying about "walking a mile in a man's shoes"?

[JRutledge]

I love it when people show a snap shot and think that proves something. For one we have no idea what took place a second before or a second after the photo. For all we know a foul might have been called on the play. For all we know there was contact with the ball first. We have no idea. And this is why stupid fans always try to bring a photo but do not want to discuss anything that took place before or after the play.

Peace

[DadofTwins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

What's that saying about "walking a mile in a man's shoes"?

"Before you criticize, walk a mile in a man's shoes. That way, when you do you'll be a mile away and you'll have his shoes."

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by DadofTwins

"Before you criticize, walk a mile in a man's shoes. That way, when you do you'll be a mile away and you'll have his shoes."

LOL...you ain't the father of the Lopez twins, are you?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by mightyvol

Did anyone see this? And if soo, I would like to hear what the veterans have to say about it. Thanks.

http://www.texags.com/main/forum.rep...800&forum_id=7

The "not a foul" pic is the last shot attempt by Texas A&M v. UCLA. On the initial live action play I thought "good block". When they showed the replay I said "oops, looked like a foul". But the 3 officials on the court don't have still photographs and replays to determine fouls. Plus, I didn't see the whole game so I don't know what similar plays may have been "not a foul" on the other end.

[socalreff]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

The "not a foul" pic is the last shot attempt by Texas A&M v. UCLA. On the initial live action play I thought "good block". When they showed the replay I said "oops, looked like a foul". But the 3 officials on the court don't have still photographs and replays to determine fouls. Plus, I didn't see the whole game so I don't know what similar plays may have been "not a foul" on the other end.

I saw the whole game including this play about 10 times. The first time I saw it live, I thought it was a good block. However, after seeing it back it was definitely a foul. The officials only get one chance and I think Shipp's play on the shooter was so quick it was difficult to tell live if it was clean. It does seem like UCLA has been getting the long end of the stick at the end of games this season.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by socalreff

I saw the whole game including this play about 10 times. The first time I saw it live, I thought it was a good block. However, after seeing it back it was definitely a foul. The officials only get one chance and I think Shipp's play on the shooter was so quick it was difficault to tell live if it was clean. It does seem like UCLA has been geeting the long end of the stick at the end of games this season.

Maybe the refs are just getting caught up in the emotion of it all.

[eyezen]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Maybe the refs are just getting caught up in the emotion of it all.

I'm thinking they lost their poise.

[dblref]

Originally Posted by socalreff

I saw the whole game including this play about 10 times. The first time I saw it live, I thought it was a good block. However, after seeing it back it was definitely a foul. The officials only get one chance and I think Shipp's play on the shooter was so quick it was difficult to tell live if it was clean. It does seem like UCLA has been getting the long end of the stick at the end of games this season.

You saw the whole game 10 times? Why? Did you think the score would change? If you believe the 3 officials missed this call, then they apparently did not receive their training in CA. As everyone knows, the CA trained officicals are ready for college ball in only 3 years. Maybe they need remedial training. UCLA definitely got outplayed until Love decided to take over for a couple of minutes.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by dblref

If you believe the 3 officials missed this call, then they apparently did not receive their training in CA. As everyone knows, the CA trained officials are ready for college ball in only 3 years. Maybe they need remedial training.

LOL......

[socalreff]

Originally Posted by dblref

You saw the whole game 10 times? Why? Did you think the score would change? If you believe the 3 officials missed this call, then they apparently did not receive their training in CA. As everyone knows, the CA trained officicals are ready for college ball in only 3 years. Maybe they need remedial training. UCLA definitely got outplayed until Love decided to take over for a couple of minutes.

I watch a lot of video. It's the best way for me to get better. I don't just watch plays to see if it was right or wrong; I watch to see positioning and communication among other things.
I never said that CA officials are ready in 3 years. I said the opportunity in SoCal in my area is there to be ready in 3 years. Not everybody does all the work some of us have done to get prepared. Not everybody improves at the same rate or starts at the same point. All the officials I've seen advance that quickly were former collegiate players which I think gives one a feel for the game that is hard to duplicate.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by socalreff

All the officials I've seen advance that quickly were former collegiate players which I think gives one a feel for the game that is hard to duplicate.

Or gives one a very good network of the "right" people.