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Old Fri Mar 07, 2008, 04:07pm
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Refs are objective but there are factors that can sway them. the crowd, coaches, players perhaps. close game and to a lesser extent if a team has momentum but that is my theory.
Sigh.....

Yes, fanboy. Officials don't have any balls. None of 'em. Especially the ones that work D1 ball. Happy now?

Good. Piss off.

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Old Fri Mar 07, 2008, 04:13pm
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Before this thing gets locked... let me just add

Plethora. Veritable plethora.

Its. A. Plethora.

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Old Fri Mar 07, 2008, 04:21pm
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Plethora. Veritable plethora.

Its. A. Plethora.
Liked that one, eh? Did it give you a pilomotor reaction(probably singular in your case)?
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Old Fri Mar 07, 2008, 04:26pm
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Liked that one, eh? Did it give you a pilomotor reaction(probably singular in your case)?
Well... I don't know about all them high faluttin' $10 words yer throwing around my friend, but I do know it gave me goose bumps.

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Old Fri Mar 07, 2008, 04:28pm
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And I just would like to know if you know what a plethora is, Jefe.
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Old Fri Mar 07, 2008, 04:18pm
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Resort to name calling all you want. have you answered my two questions? I do not see anything wrong with them.
As for mistakes I've made them and everyone does at any level. The replays in the Stanford game showed the calls were wrong but everyone makes calls like that
Can someone honestly say that at a game with a home crowd going crazy that the refs might make a call they would normally not make when the game was less intense? Sure it happens less with better refs but it does happen and it is total BS if you want to claim otherwise. all right just about the last post on this topic. Now on to why the star players get the calls? Jordan, Kobe etc.
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Old Fri Mar 07, 2008, 04:22pm
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Can someone honestly say that at a game with a home crowd going crazy that the refs might make a call they would normally not make when the game was less intense?
Yes, lots of people can. If you can't, that's your problem.
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Old Fri Mar 07, 2008, 04:22pm
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Now on to why the star players get the calls? Jordan, Kobe etc.
Stick to basketball....we're not discussing the NBA.
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Plethora. Of the veritable variety.
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Old Fri Mar 07, 2008, 04:30pm
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Can someone honestly say that at a game with a home crowd going crazy that the refs might make a call they would normally not make when the game was less intense?


And I'm sure many refs here can answer they have stayed objective and consistent(Edit) although it seems to be a touchy subject so I'm sure many of you have had really close games and questioned your judgment on a call late in a game. But it does happen and even the best refs might make mistakes in these situations.
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Old Fri Mar 07, 2008, 04:36pm
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[I]And I'm sure many refs here can answer they have stayed objective and consistent(Edit) although it seems to be a touchy subject so I'm sure many of you have had really close games and questioned your judgment on a call late in a game. But it does happen and even the best refs might make mistakes in these situations.
I don't know about consistent (tough to define, and always defined differently by coaches, players, and fans than by officials), but I can claim I've always been objective. Have I made mistakes? Yes. Do I blame the intensity of the game? No.

If you're getting overwhelmed by the intensity of momentum, then you're reffing above your paygrade.
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yah that consistency word can be tough to define for refs because there are different types of plays. I've done very well late in the games. One of my first games I thought my partner and I didn't do a good job. Since then I wanted to do better and my close games have gone very well. Mistakes happen but it should be about the refs and the play on court. But other factors can contribute to bad calls and I say this can affect any level of referee. That is not to say every referee will be swayed but again I'm claiming that it does occur.
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Your thread got yanked because it

a) was dumb.
b) incited some inflammatory, counter-productive material.
c) was dumb.

End of story.

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Old Fri Mar 07, 2008, 04:52pm
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yah that consistency word can be tough to define for refs because there are different types of plays. I've done very well late in the games. One of my first games I thought my partner and I didn't do a good job. Since then I wanted to do better and my close games have gone very well. Mistakes happen but it should be about the refs and the play on court. But other factors can contribute to bad calls and I say this can affect any level of referee. That is not to say every referee will be swayed but again I'm claiming that it does occur.
Wow. "Consistency" is a tough word to define for REFS????? But you in your first year or two, are doing just great with it? I agree with those who recommend you start a camp. We all have a lot to learn from you.

This is all just too funny for words.
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Can someone honestly say that at a game with a home crowd going crazy that the refs might make a call they would normally not make when the game was less intense?

Yes, I will say it, and honestly. If you think that happens, then it's obvious not only do you know nothing about officiating, but you'd better get out of it quick because your posts imply you have no intent to demonstrate integrity when it comes to officiating. You are looking for a rationalization for you making incorrect calls.
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