Why was my Stanford/UCLA post taken down?

[lpbreeze]

As a fan of basketball of course I can critique the calls. The holier than thou attitude here is ridiculous. yes, refs can decide games and yes poor officiating can cost a team a win. I haven't been ripping refs in my earlier posts. I'm merely point out the consistency of the calls changed in the last few minutes.

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

As a fan of basketball of course I can critique the calls. The holier than thou attitude here is ridiculous. yes, refs can decide games and yes poor officiating can cost a team a win. I haven't been ripping refs in my earlier posts. I'm merely point out the consistency of the calls changed in the last few minutes.

Nope. It's official. You don't get it and you likely never will.

[Gimlet25id]

Isn't there a saying? "You have to know when to hold em and know when to fold em" I think I'd be folding!!!!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

As a fan of basketball of course I can critique the calls.

You're not critiquing calls. If that's all you were doing, the response would be much more civil, even if we disagreed with you.

You're challenging the way the game was called. You're accusing the refs of letting their emotions get the better of them in a game.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

As a fan of basketball of course I can critique the calls. The holier than thou attitude here is ridiculous. yes, refs can decide games and yes poor officiating can cost a team a win. I haven't been ripping refs in my earlier posts. I'm merely point out the consistency of the calls changed in the last few minutes.

We know exactly what you're pointing out. Your posting history here has been pretty consistent also. You don't know enough to critique D1 officials and you will never understand what people here are trying to tell you either.

[lpbreeze]

Fine. take out the whole Stanford/UCLA part. I haven't been coming here after seeing a game and criticizing the refs.
Most of the time I would say the following is just perception and can occur with a team being more aggressive but it does HAPPEN and refs should be careful to watch out for it.

Have refs been caught up in the excitement of a game, especially one that is close, and made calls that were not consistent with how the game was being called before. YES!

Do refs get caught up when a team is on a roll and start favoring the team with momentum? Yes again. These are lessons I'm learning. These mistakes happen less with NCAA and NBA refs but they do happen and there is nothing wrong with pointing that out.

I think the block was clean and this isn't a great example but it helps to show what I'm saying
http://blogs.newsobserver.com/accnow...&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

[Adam]

You have no evidence to back up your claim that refs "get caught up when a team is on a roll and start favoring the team with momentum."

That's called projecting.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

You have no evidence to back up your claim that refs "get caught up when a team is on a roll and start favoring the team with momentum."

That's called projecting.

No no, this is projecting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-emQAsGMeQ

What he's doing is spewing.

[cmckenna]

Please provide specific examples to back up your claims. Please note the date of the game, who the teams were, who the officials were and where the box scores and statistics can be found to back up the claims.

I can claim that Big Foot walks through my back yard all the time but unless I have evidence to prove it, it ain't worth 2 5h!t5

[lpbreeze]

Whatever. Those two questions I posted are legitimate. If you disagree with the answers that is fine.
Perhaps because many of you haven't played in so long you are forgetting. But players, fan and coaches will answer Yes to both. In most instances I do think it is perception and they are wrong but it does HAPPEN.

[SonikBoom]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

Whatever. Those two questions I posted are legitimate. If you disagree with the answers that is fine.
Perhaps because many of you haven't played in so long you are forgetting. But players, fan and coaches will answer Yes to both. In most instances I do think it is perception and they are wrong but it does HAPPEN.

I havnt been refing long, but one thing I've learned is that fans, coaches and players are one-sided. THey aren't neutral. THe refs work hard to be nutral. Aat least the good ones do. WHen yuo say yure a fan, you show that your not beinh\g a ref. You just cant do both..

edited to fix typing == some of it

also to add: My brain has a couple of "wiring proglems". I don't always understand metaphors or sarcasm. Hints and allusions do work for me. But logic I can do quite well. Thinking logically, D1 refs have to be the MOST neutral, the MOST unemotional, the MOST dispassionate. They have to be the highest quality. If you put that thought as the assumption in your arguement, you quickly arrive at the only possible conclusion in answering the question, "Are the refs giving away the game?" If A, then B = The best refs don't give away the game.

[cmckenna]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

But players, fan and coaches will answer Yes to both.

Because they care who wins. The officials are the ONLY objective parties involved in the game.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

Whatever. Those two questions I posted are legitimate. If you disagree with the answers that is fine.
Perhaps because many of you haven't played in so long you are forgetting. But players, fan and coaches will answer Yes to both. In most instances I do think it is perception and they are wrong but it does HAPPEN.

Dang it...just when I think we are getting somewhere, then you go and talk about what the players, fans, and coaches think. Since we aren't any of those groups and can't look at the game the same way any of those groups do, I guess you aren't quite ready to walk on the rice-paper or carry that red-hot pot of coals.

[lpbreeze]

oh and I did work with an older more experienced official this year for a JV girls game who told me afterward he made a couple of calls he wished he didn't at the end of the game. He was sweating and I thought the coach yelling and the excitement of a close game got to him.
So keep up with the name calling all you guys want but I'm sticking to my points and can anyone honestly answer No to the two questions? Everyone makes mistakes and refs should work to limit them. I observed some things and I want to avoid it when I ref games.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

Whatever. Those two questions I posted are legitimate. If you disagree with the answers that is fine.
Perhaps because many of you haven't played in so long you are forgetting. But players, fan and coaches will answer Yes to both. In most instances I do think it is perception and they are wrong but it does HAPPEN.

There's your problem right there. We aren't players, fans or coaches. We're officials. You're not. And until you stop thinking like a player, fan or coach, you will never be one of us.

Right now, you're just another back-stabbing, integrity-free douchebag of a fanboy who doesn't have any kind of clue what officiating is all about.