Why was my Stanford/UCLA post taken down?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

How about if he throws in a 14" carrot?

You can't get a 14" carrot from a 1" carrot person.

Simple mathematics.

[lpbreeze]

I'm not attacking the refs- I'm pointing out that refs sometimes join in with a team is on a roll. I don't think they are doing it on purpose but when a team starts making mistakes and one team gets on a roll sometimes calls will go their way. I don't see anything wrong with pointing that out and I saw it yesterday during the game when Stanford lost an 11 point lead. A lot of that was their fault as I said in my original post. Oh and the replays showed the refs made 3 bad calls in the last two minutes. One I don't blame on them because it did look like a foul but only with the on court cam that it was shown not to be a foul. The second no one was even touched. And the third happened with 3 seconds to go and it was a clean block but it was called a foul. Everyone makes mistakes but I'm just saying that the refs made calls they might not have had if UCLA was not on a roll.

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my point was that in games when one team starts getting on a roll sometimes the officials start favoring the stronger team. It usually won't last and once the other team gets a few baskets it goes back. It doesn't happen a lot. I've seen it before in Duke and UNC games many times and high school games especially.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

I'm not attacking the refs- I'm pointing out that refs sometimes join in with a team is on a roll. I don't think they are doing it on purpose but when a team starts making mistakes and one team gets on a roll sometimes calls will go their way.

I get it now. You're denigrating their competence.

[Gimlet25id]

I see a padlock in the very near future...

[lpbreeze]

As a fan of basketball of course I can critique the calls. The holier than thou attitude here is ridiculous. yes, refs can decide games and yes poor officiating can cost a team a win. I haven't been ripping refs in my earlier posts. I'm merely point out the consistency of the calls changed in the last few minutes.

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

As a fan of basketball of course I can critique the calls. The holier than thou attitude here is ridiculous. yes, refs can decide games and yes poor officiating can cost a team a win. I haven't been ripping refs in my earlier posts. I'm merely point out the consistency of the calls changed in the last few minutes.

Nope. It's official. You don't get it and you likely never will.

[Gimlet25id]

Isn't there a saying? "You have to know when to hold em and know when to fold em" I think I'd be folding!!!!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

As a fan of basketball of course I can critique the calls.

You're not critiquing calls. If that's all you were doing, the response would be much more civil, even if we disagreed with you.

You're challenging the way the game was called. You're accusing the refs of letting their emotions get the better of them in a game.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

As a fan of basketball of course I can critique the calls. The holier than thou attitude here is ridiculous. yes, refs can decide games and yes poor officiating can cost a team a win. I haven't been ripping refs in my earlier posts. I'm merely point out the consistency of the calls changed in the last few minutes.

We know exactly what you're pointing out. Your posting history here has been pretty consistent also. You don't know enough to critique D1 officials and you will never understand what people here are trying to tell you either.

[lpbreeze]

Fine. take out the whole Stanford/UCLA part. I haven't been coming here after seeing a game and criticizing the refs.
Most of the time I would say the following is just perception and can occur with a team being more aggressive but it does HAPPEN and refs should be careful to watch out for it.

Have refs been caught up in the excitement of a game, especially one that is close, and made calls that were not consistent with how the game was being called before. YES!

Do refs get caught up when a team is on a roll and start favoring the team with momentum? Yes again. These are lessons I'm learning. These mistakes happen less with NCAA and NBA refs but they do happen and there is nothing wrong with pointing that out.

I think the block was clean and this isn't a great example but it helps to show what I'm saying
http://blogs.newsobserver.com/accnow...&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

As a fan of basketball of course I can critique the calls. The holier than thou attitude here is ridiculous. yes, refs can decide games and yes poor officiating can cost a team a win. I haven't been ripping refs in my earlier posts. I'm merely point out the consistency of the calls changed in the last few minutes.

Look breeze, take this (IMO) very sound advice. Don't come here as a fanboy to criticize officials. It will not be TOLERATED!!

[rockchalk jhawk]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

As a fan of basketball of course I can critique the calls. The holier than thou attitude here is ridiculous. yes, refs can decide games and yes poor officiating can cost a team a win. I haven't been ripping refs in my earlier posts. I'm merely point out the consistency of the calls changed in the last few minutes.

If you're going to look at the game "as a fan", then go to a fansite where your posts are welcomed and accepted. Because posting here with that mentality, obviously, is not acceptable.

And until you can ref D1 ball to the level of other D1 officials, keep your deragotory remarks to yourself. Either respect your elders or go to a fanboy site and get it off your chest there. I think that's been mentioned once or twice before.

[Gimlet25id]

Breeze...Listen...

http://www.last.fm/music/Kenny+Rogers/_/The+Gambler

[VTOfficial]

yes, refs can decide games and yes poor officiating can cost a team a win

I will tell you one thing, if this is the mentality and attitude you have toward your fellow peers, you will not be highly regarded by many other officials.

This is one comment that will definitely put you on the chopping block amongst officials. By this comment, you are saying that neither teams performance and/or errors caused them to be in an unfavorable position late in the game? You are also saying that every turnover or missed shot or missed free throw had no influence on the game?

You should pick your thoughts and words a little better (especially as a new official) when discussing the judgment of others.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

I'm not attacking the refs- I'm pointing out that refs sometimes join in with a team is on a roll.

my point was that in games when one team starts getting on a roll sometimes the officials start favoring the stronger team.

We know what your point is. Our point is that you're in the wrong place to make it. You need to find a fanboy site. You'd fit right in there.

You don't fit in here.

You can critique a call, mechanics, etc. We all miss or screw up a call. We try to learn from those mistakes by discussing them. You're not doing that. All you're doing is questioning the integrity of a D1 crew. And you see nothing wrong with that. That's very telling.