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Hmmmmmm.........
I wonder how long this thread would be by now if the crew didn't get the call right. You know, if the Gators hadda got the ball on the missed call, hit a 3 at the horn to tie it and then won it in OT. Just wondering....... |
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Right? No?
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There are absolutely no absolutes when it comes to officiating. Sometimes, the best thing for the game and the crew under certain circumstances might be to ballwatch, go out of our area, etc. This call might be a pretty good example of that. In end-of-close game situations, you had damn well better be ready to help each other out, whether it's on anticipated TO requests, last-second shots, screwed-up throw-ins, etc. You can set up so that you can look through your area to help out too. In this particular situation, a veteran crew did what they had to do to avoid possibly causing one humongous cluster-f**k. Great job on their part imo. If they hadda strictly adhered to the usual mechanics, we'd now be reading one heckuva lot of articles from the usual empty suits wondering how they coulda missed such an obvious call. Sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do. Jmo. |
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![]() I dont see what the big deal is, if I am in the C in a press situation I try to look as wide at the court as i possibly can to see what is in front of (my primary) and what is in the background (the T's primary). If I happen to catch something that my partner missed then so be it, to me that is good officiating and just because Kitts saw the ball go OOB doesnt necessarily mean he was "ball watching" perhaps he was just being observant. What would everyone be saying if the T got blocked/knocked out of the play, didn't get an angle on the OOB, he looked to the C for help and the C wasn't looking wide at the backcourt? I bet some on this board would say that the C was looking too narrow at his own primary and not helping his partner in an obvious press situation. The most important thing is they got it RIGHT, everything else is secondary
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The trouble with calling out of your area is that that usually those calls are wrong. Sounds like they got it right this time, but the percentage of missed calls when one calls out of one's area is very high. |
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Circumstances sometimes dictate what needs to be done out there, and we as officials should be ready to adjust to those circumstances. And that's exactly what happened in this play imho. |
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Secondly, it's not about saving face or "should" let calling official change it---it's the rule. Art. 3. No official shall have authority to set aside or question decisions made by the other official(s) within the limits of their respective outlined duties. Art. 4. One official may assist another by providing additional information related to a made decision. Art. 5. The referee’s decision shall not take precedence over that of the umpire(s) in calling a foul or violation. You can't overrule a partner's foul or violation. You provide information and it's still up to the calling official to change it or not.
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For all we know, the only matchups the C had to cover could have all near the endline with no one above the FT line or at mid-court...naturally leading his vision towards the throwin spot.
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We all have experiences that shape our beliefs. My experience has been that many officials use the "get it right" philosophy as an excuse to ball watch. My experience has also been that when partners make calls that are not in their primary, those calls are often wrong.
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And besides that most of your calls are wrong, and you have a thin skin and are unprofessional and I never wanna see your azz in my gym again!! (sorry, just channeling a certain coach who lives up in Alaska...or maybe that was certain coaches...)
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