Free Throw Violation- Shooter with ball

[lpbreeze]

So I don't know the rules too well on this other than the traditional violations leaving the lane early, etc. For a shooter.
He had the ball dribbled and then put the ball up and pushed it upward to practice his shot. A couple of feet straight up above his head. Ball came down, caught it and then shot the ft. I called a violation. I've seen players practice their shot but without the ball. I'm fairly sure I got this right but I wanted to check. high school.

Also, does anyone have a link on the difference for backcourt NCAA vs H.S? ball off D player than off offensive into backcourt that is a violation but not in the NBA. Is it in NCAA?

[Adam]

Not a violation.

[lpbreeze]

Is there a cite for that? I swear this is a violation in the NBA but I'm not sure for HS and NCAA. For me it should be a violation because he made a shooting motion with the ball---edit. perhaps you were referring to the second part. But back on the Ft. Could a player pretend to throw the ball at the basket if it isn't a violation to draw the other team into a lane violation? I called a violation because the other team did step into the lane.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

Is there a cite for that? I swear this is a violation in the NBA but I'm not sure for HS and NCAA. For me it should be a violation because he made a shooting motion with the ball---edit. perhaps you were referring to the second part. But back on the Ft. Could a player pretend to throw the ball at the basket if it isn't a violation to draw the other team into a lane violation? I called a violation because the other team did step into the lane.

The only way I'd call a violation in that instance is if the action drew his opponent into the lane. Otherwise, it's nothing.

Oh, and it's much more appropriate to provide a citation about how this is a violation, rather than looking for one to explicitly allow it. If it's not against the rules, it's legal.

[lpbreeze]

Really? I just can't understand that. So a player is allowed to do any type of shooting motion, even releasing the ball as long as its not toward the rim. Or fake a toss at the rim as long as it doesn't draw the other team into a violation? Well if its not in the rules it should be. I just think you can't make a shooting motion with the ball that doesn't go to the rim

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

Really? I just can't understand that. So a player is allowed to do any type of shooting motion, even releasing the ball as long as its not toward the rim. Or fake a toss at the rim as long as it doesn't draw the other team into a violation? Well if its not in the rules it should be. I just think you can't make a shooting motion with the ball

Why not? It obviously isn't the player's actual shot, so why should an official care?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

So I don't know the rules too well on this other than the traditional violations leaving the lane early, etc. For a shooter.
He had the ball dribbled and then put the ball up and pushed it upward to practice his shot. A couple of feet straight up above his head. Ball came down, caught it and then shot the ft. I called a violation. I've seen players practice their shot but without the ball. I'm fairly sure I got this right but I wanted to check. high school.

Also, does anyone have a link on the difference for backcourt NCAA vs H.S? ball off D player than off offensive into backcourt that is a violation but not in the NBA. Is it in NCAA?

1) I agree with Scrapper. *IF* it's a fake, it's a violation. As described, it's not likely a fake.

2) There's no substantial difference on the backcourt violation rule in NCAA and FED relating to the play you describe. It's not a violation yet, but will be if A is the first to touch the ball.