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Old Mon Mar 03, 2008, 03:45pm
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A Few Questions From a Rookie

First post - a little about myself:

I started officiating junior high this year after seven years of coaching - I had filled in from time to time over the years, but had never reffed seriously until now. After my coaching season was over this year (in December), found out I really missed basketball and took a liking to the other side of the ball. Plus, there's a serious shortage here so it was really easy to pick up some games. I did my last games last weekend, and ended up with about 16 under my belt when it was all said and done. I also umpire baseball in the summer.

Question #1 - Ball inbounded in frontcourt, touches offensive players hand in frontcourt (no control), then rolls into backcourt. Player picks it up and I called over and back. My partner said it was an incorrect call because he never established control.

Question #2 - What exactly is the ruling when the ball hits the top of the backboard on a shot? I always have thought it was still in play as long as it doesn't go behind the backboard, but have seen it called differently at different times.

Question #3 - Inbounds situation. Defender touches the ball before it leaves the inbounder's hands. Never actually had this happen this season - just wondering. I've heard that it should result in a T? Is this correct?

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Old Mon Mar 03, 2008, 03:49pm
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#1. Your partner was correct.
#2. You are correct. The top of the board is not out of bounds. If it goes over, it is OOB. If it hits a support, it's OOB.
#3. Depends on where the ball is in relation to the OOB plane when the defender touches it. If the defender reaches across the plane and touches the ball, it's a T. If the thrower reaches the ball across the plane and the defender touches it, it's nothing.
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Speaking of backboards, do you know why backboards were originally put up for games (trivia question)?
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Congrats on joining the ranks. You're needed. Now, go get your rules book and look up the answers to all of these and more! I'll be glad to give you the quick answers, but they are all pretty basic and I'd encourage you to really study.

#1 - your partner was correct. You need to learn what is required in order for a backcourt violation to be called. Look at both 4-4, which is the rule regarding ball location, and 9-9, which is the rule regarding the backcourt violation.

#2 - The top of the backboard is inbounds. Read 7-1-2.

#3 - Depends. I say that because it depends on whether the ball is outside or inside the vertical plane of the boundary line when touched. If outside the boundary, a technical foul. If inside, legal. Rules 7-6, 9-2 and 10-3-11.

Good luck, and read a lot of this board. It has helped me tremendously.
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2008, 03:57pm
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Speaking of backboards, do you know why backboards were originally put up for games (trivia question)?
To keep the ball from going outside the court area and hitting the sheep in the barn?
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2008, 03:59pm
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Speaking of backboards, do you know why backboards were originally put up for games (trivia question)?
B/c Jurassic was getting tired of chasing down the ball after missed shots?
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2008, 04:05pm
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Question #2 - What exactly is the ruling when the ball hits the top of the backboard on a shot? I always have thought it was still in play as long as it doesn't go behind the backboard, but have seen it called differently at different times.
To elaborate further, there are 6 sides to a backboard only the backside is OOB. If a fan shaped backboard is used, the ball going completely over the top w/out touching anything is still live. Same senario with a rectangle board is OOB.
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2008, 04:19pm
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Speaking of backboards, do you know why backboards were originally put up for games (trivia question)?
I know, I know.....

Because the spectators up top on the tracks in the YMCA's watching the game were leaning over and knocking shots away......also known as "fan goaltending".
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2008, 04:21pm
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B/c Jurassic was getting tired of chasing down the ball after missed shots?
Didn't have to chase the ball. We had chicken wire around the court.

Probably still should have it with some of the fans today.......
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2008, 04:38pm
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