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Old Fri Feb 29, 2008, 11:35am
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There is nothing in the rule book that says the R has to run the pregame meeting with capains and coaches

There are only 7 specific things outlined in the rulebook
1) toss
2) throw-in at quarter
3) decide if goal counts if officials disagee
4) declare the game a forefeit
5) resolve matters on which timer and scorer disagree and correct obvious timing mistakes
6) make sure arrow is right at half
7) Approve the score.

And in all reality... the rules have changed 1 to allow another official to toss, but seriously do we really care who throws the ball in at qtr?

And from the stands someone could determine the 5 duties were abdicated?

Maybe the designated "R" was mentoring a n official and let him run the pregame--- Since he ran the pregame, he had him toss the ball and throw-it in... This may be to build the official's credibility with the coaches or some other reason.

If this is all we could pick on in a game then we have way too much time on our hands...
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Old Fri Feb 29, 2008, 12:07pm
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Maybe the designated "R" was mentoring a n official and let him run the pregame--- Since he ran the pregame, he had him toss the ball and throw-it in... This may be to build the official's credibility with the coaches or some other reason.
3 years ago I was the U2 on my first "big-time" Boys game between the defending state champions and one of their bitter rivals. When I arrived at the site the crew chief designated me the "R" for the entire contest from locker room pre-game to on-court duties through the post-game locker room chat. And I was formally evaluated by our association's head observer.
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Old Fri Feb 29, 2008, 12:45pm
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I don't see a problem with this. One guy performs all the pregame stuff but when It comes time to toss, delegates it to an another official.

I like to toss in my games, not because I am on some ego powertrip, but it's easy to remember where I'm headed after the toss. :-D
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Old Fri Feb 29, 2008, 03:29pm
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3 years ago I was the U2 on my first "big-time" Boys game between the defending state champions and one of their bitter rivals. When I arrived at the site the crew chief designated me the "R" for the entire contest from locker room pre-game to on-court duties through the post-game locker room chat. And I was formally evaluated by our association's head observer.
I have been given this chance as well in my ealier stages of officiating and I have done the same to others when I have been the R as well.
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Old Fri Feb 29, 2008, 04:51pm
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We are assigned R/U1/U2 for varsity games, and the R has the responsibility to contact partners before the game and coordinate arrival time and such. The R also is responsible for the pregame, but there isn't anything that prevents him or her from delegating that responsibility, in whole or in part. The R can designate a tosser, and can designate another R for one or both games if there are 2. Typically, the assigned R will be the R for the second of 2 games or the one game.
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Old Fri Feb 29, 2008, 07:35pm
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2007-08 IAABO Mechanics Changes

Here are the 2007-08 IAABO, not NFHS, mechanics changes:

Added a signal (spreading of the arms) for when a defender is not in a closely-guarding position.
Referee can delegate jump ball toss.
Ball allowed on floor during time-out or intermission.
Boundary line coverage by trail farther sideline above free throw line extended.
Trail may rotate toward farther sideline, leads primary coverage area rotates.

There's also an exception to the "boxing in principle (official-ball-official)", but we're not using this here in Connecticut.
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Old Fri Feb 29, 2008, 01:00pm
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[QUOTE=Kelvin green]There is nothing in the rule book that says the R has to run the pregame meeting with capains and coaches

I just happened to be thumbing thru the NFHS officials manual and found a section that expands on the referee's pregame duties. It's located under 3.1.5.
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Old Fri Feb 29, 2008, 01:17pm
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Somtimes I will have another official be "the R" in my games, even if I am listed as the R. Sometimes it is because they are a young and upcoming official who needs to learn how to lead. Sometimes it is because it is an official who I consider "my peer" and I was the R on a game with him/her earlier in the year. Sometimes it's a veteran that is on the downside of their career and I do it out of respect. No big deal. If we hit a snag, I am still going to go get it fixed as if I tossed.
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Old Fri Feb 29, 2008, 01:21pm
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Our association assignor designates the R, U1 & U2 when we are assigned our games. Coming up, it was common for the R to give me as the U1 or U2 the R responsibility from the pregame to the end of the game. This was to give me the experience and confidence to perform the duties of an R. This year I've started to do give the up and coming U1 or U2 the R responsibilities during some of my games. I usually wouldn't do this for a big rivalry game. I felt it helped me along the way, so why not pass it down.
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