Disconcertion or not?

[IREFU2]

It was a heated game and I didnt want anything stupid to happen....preventive officiating!!!

[ref2coach]

What was your "rules" basis for moving the player from his legal location outside the 3 point line and above the free throw line extended?

[IREFU2]

If you look at Rule #2, Section 3 - The referee shall make decisions on any points not specifically covered in the rules......I made a decision that I felt was warrented due to the nature of the game......

[ref2coach]

Originally Posted by IREFU2

points not specifically covered in the rules.

But it is specifically "covered". The "location" is defined in the rules and "disconcerting" is defined. The player was in a legal location and you stated that you were unable to determine if he "disconcerted" the free thrower.

You could warn him and closely observe him but you had no authority to move him.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by IREFU2

It was a heated game and I didnt want anything stupid to happen....preventive officiating!!!

Preventive officiating is not telling a player that he can't do something that's legal. Your 2-3 reference is BS, since the rules state that he can stand there. You can't use 2-3 to justify everything you don't like.

If he's disconcerting, call it.

If you don't know, then you either move closer so you can make the call or you preventive officiating by warning him not to disconcert the shooter.

But you have no authority to tell him he can't stand there.

Sorry, you can be defensive if you want to but there's no rule basis for what you did. It was wrong.

[IREFU2]

Thats your opinion....In the game we had it was warrented. I just asked him politely to move from behind that shooter and I am not using 2-3 to justify everything. It was my call and I will stand by it. Thanks for your input.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by IREFU2

I just asked him politely to move from behind that shooter and I am not using 2-3 to justify everything. It was my call and I will stand by it. Thanks for your input.

What rule did you use to justify it?

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

What rule did you use to justify it?

I used 2-3, but i guess I was wrong according to everyone here. Its evident that I dont have the "authority" to tell the players to do anything......thanks for everyones responses and input.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by IREFU2

I used 2-3, but i guess I was wrong according to everyone here. Its evident that I dont have the "authority" to tell the players to do anything......thanks for everyones responses and input.

You obviously can tell a player whatever you like.

Just as obviously you do not have the authority to make them obey you on matters outside of the rules.

[Red_Killian]

Suppose the kid was a rule book junkie and he knew he was within the rules to stand behind the shooter and refused to move. What would be your course of action then?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

If he's disconcerting, call it.

If you don't know, then you either move closer so you can make the call or you preventive officiating by warning him not to disconcert the shooter.

But you have no authority to tell him he can't stand there.

..... there's no rule basis for what you did. It was wrong.

Agree. Those are your only choices, by rule. Warn/call.