What call if any?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

So what if he didn't gather the ball until he's already got both feet off the floor?

ball bounces, feet push straight up and body heads forbasket, then both hands on ball and pull it up toward the basket? Now, if he never shoots, is it legal to land? He never had a pivot foot, did he?

Rule 4-44-2(a)

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

So what if he didn't gather the ball until he's already got both feet off the floor?

ball bounces, feet push straight up and body heads forbasket, then both hands on ball and pull it up toward the basket? Now, if he never shoots, is it legal to land? He never had a pivot foot, did he?

You know, with everything we have to watch at once, I admit that I couldn't tell you exactly when a player going for a layup picked up the ball. But this scenario sounds like one that would get my attention. Not actually gathering the ball until he's already airborne? I think you're right about it not being a travel. But it's probably 50/50 as to whether I'd call it (even though I try never to call a travel on something just because it looks funny, occassionally I do call a "that's gotta be a travel" travel).

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

You know, with everything we have to watch at once, I admit that I couldn't tell you exactly when a player going for a layup picked up the ball. But this scenario sounds like one that would get my attention. Not actually gathering the ball until he's already airborne? I think you're right about it not being a travel. But it's probably 50/50 as to whether I'd call it (even though I try never to call a travel on something that looks funny, occassionally I do call a "that's gotta be a travel" travel).

Yea, probably gonna be hard to see. It just occurred to me that we really do need to be sure we keep track of when the ball is "gathered", ie when the dribble ends.

did you get my PM?

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Yea, probably gonna be hard to see. It just occurred to me that we really do need to be sure we keep track of when the ball is "gathered", ie when the dribble ends.

did you get my PM?

Got your PM. Did you get my email?

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Yea, probably gonna be hard to see. It just occurred to me that we really do need to be sure we keep track of when the ball is "gathered", ie when the dribble ends.

did you get my PM?

Good advice. When I first went to camp, I learned very quickly to be able to identify which foot is/was the pivot foot.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Got your PM. Did you get my email?

yup thanks. Isn't technology wonderful!?

[mick]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

So what if he didn't gather the ball until he's already got both feet off the floor?

ball bounces, feet push straight up and body heads forbasket, then both hands on ball and pull it up toward the basket? Now, if he never shoots, is it legal to land? He never had a pivot foot, did he?

Yes, rebounding remains legal, but not part of the sitch.

[Adam]

Just a thought. This could be a legal jump stop.
Player gathers ball while in the air.
Player plants one foot and jumps off that foot, with the intent to shoot.
Player decides not to shoot and lands on both feet simultaneously.

Crowd will scream for a travel because it looks ugly.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Just a thought. This could be a legal jump stop.
Player gathers ball while in the air.
Player plants one foot and jumps off that foot, with the intent to shoot.
Player decides not to shoot and lands on both feet simultaneously.

Crowd will scream for a travel because it looks ugly.

Um, yes.....that's exactly why you use rule 4.44-2(a) when the ball is gathered by an airborne player.