Technical - Ejection

[billyc8037]

JV Boys Game in Massachusetts. (not that it really matters where) The game is in OT with a few seconds left on the clock. Team A is down by 1. A1 drives the lane, goes up for the lay-up, makes the shot, draws the foul and when he lands, hits the official in the face who was bending down under the basket to pick up the ball upon blowing the whistle for the foul against B1. Official regains his composure (or not), is obviously pi$$ed off for being hit by A1, calls a technical on A1 and ejects him from the game. Team A coach must now replace ejected A1 with another player in order to complete ejected A1's single foul shot. A2 fails to make the single free throw. Team B produces a player to shoot the two technical shots and B1 makes both winning the game. A1 inadvertently came down on the ref with no malice, intent or deliberation. Was this the right call? should the "T" have warranted an ejection?

[JRutledge]

The official that was there has to make that judgment. I would like to hear the official's side of the story. There side is really the only one that matters in this case.

Peace

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by billyc8037

JV Boys Game in Massachusetts. (not that it really matters where) The game is in OT with a few seconds left on the clock. Team A is down by 1. A1 drives the lane, goes up for the lay-up, makes the shot, draws the foul and when he lands, hits the official in the face who was bending down under the basket to pick up the ball upon blowing the whistle for the foul against B1. Official regains his composure (or not), is obviously pi$$ed off for being hit by A1, calls a technical on A1 and ejects him from the game. Team A coach must now replace ejected A1 with another player in order to complete ejected A1's single foul shot. A2 fails to make the single free throw. Team B produces a player to shoot the two technical shots and B1 makes both winning the game. A1 inadvertently came down on the ref with no malice, intent or deliberation. Was this the right call? should the "T" have warranted an ejection?

BillyC:

Of course I wasn't there to see the play, but based upon your description I can't see how this can be anything but an accidental collision between two people within a confined space.

MTD, Sr.

P.S. What Rut just said before my post.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by billyc8037

JV Boys Game in Massachusetts. (not that it really matters where) The game is in OT with a few seconds left on the clock. Team A is down by 1. A1 drives the lane, goes up for the lay-up, makes the shot, draws the foul and when he lands, hits the official in the face who was bending down under the basket to pick up the ball upon blowing the whistle for the foul against B1. Official regains his composure (or not), is obviously pi$$ed off for being hit by A1, calls a technical on A1 and ejects him from the game. Team A coach must now replace ejected A1 with another player in order to complete ejected A1's single foul shot. A2 fails to make the single free throw. Team B produces a player to shoot the two technical shots and B1 makes both winning the game. A1 inadvertently came down on the ref with no malice, intent or deliberation. Was this the right call? should the "T" have warranted an ejection?

No, it most certainly was not the right call. The official blew it big time and cost team A the game.

There should not have been a technical foul, let alone an ejection.

The official has no need to pick up a basketball while the play is still going on. If s/he does pick up the ball, do it away from players and well after the play is over.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

No, it most certainly was not the right call. The official blew it big time and cost team A the game.

There should not have been a technical foul, let alone an ejection.

The official has no need to pick up a basketball while the play is still going on. If s/he does pick up the ball, do it away from players and well after the play is over.

See what Rut said above?

That's the only answer possible in these types of situations imo also.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

See what Rut said above?

That's the only answer possible in these types of situations imo also.

While I don't disagree with you that judgment is/was used, like all posts, I left out the "if it happened as it was written", which is valid on any play posted here.

I don't mind having a line that places officials responsible for doing dumb things.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

I don't mind having a line that places officials responsible for doing dumb things.

Me neither. I learned a long time ago though to make absolutely sure that the officials actually did do a dumb thing. The only way that you can be sure is to get a report from the officials.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Me neither. I learned a long time ago though to make absolutely sure that the officials actually did do a dumb thing. The only way that you can be sure is to get a report from the officials.

Agreed. What's unfortunate is that there is so rarely a neutral 3rd party present.

[Ref in PA]

Originally Posted by billyc8037

JV Boys Game in Massachusetts. (not that it really matters where) The game is in OT with a few seconds left on the clock. Team A is down by 1. A1 drives the lane, goes up for the lay-up, makes the shot, draws the foul and when he lands, hits the official in the face who was bending down under the basket to pick up the ball upon blowing the whistle for the foul against B1. Official regains his composure (or not), is obviously pi$$ed off for being hit by A1, calls a technical on A1 and ejects him from the game. Team A coach must now replace ejected A1 with another player in order to complete ejected A1's single foul shot. A2 fails to make the single free throw. Team B produces a player to shoot the two technical shots and B1 makes both winning the game. A1 inadvertently came down on the ref with no malice, intent or deliberation. Was this the right call? should the "T" have warranted an ejection?

I have a hard time believing this play happened the way it is descibed. A1 drives the lane and makes a layup. The official bends over to pick up the basketball and A1 accidently comes down on him?

First, in all my years I have yet to see a ball beat the player to the floor on a layup. A dunk yes, but a layup no. The player always returns to the floor first.

Second, the positioning of the official is wrong. Which of us stand underneath a basket while the game is going on? Since this is a JV game, I would assume it is a two person crew. The Lead would be wider and deeper during play.

Sorry, I cannot buy what is described in the OP. There must be another side to the story.

[Freddy]

"Bending down picking up the ball upon calling the foul?" Why? That might have been part of the problem.
This might be off topic, but I see too many officials "going to get the ball" after a call. The ball is not the priority. Observing the players, reporting the foul, and confirming the next point of making the ball live is the priority.
Let the players get the ball. There's more important things to do.