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Old Tue Jan 15, 2008, 02:24pm
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Team control player OOB

Watching a girls V game last night and the lead official called a violation on a player who was running the baseline - but was OOB. I'm a first year official - is that a violation?
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Watching a girls V game last night and the lead official called a violation on a player who was running the baseline - but was OOB. I'm a first year official - is that a violation?
Was it a throw-in? Or was the ball in play in-bounds?
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Old Tue Jan 15, 2008, 02:29pm
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The ball was in play in bounds
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Old Tue Jan 15, 2008, 02:30pm
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Watching a girls V game last night and the lead official called a violation on a player who was running the baseline - but was OOB. I'm a first year official - is that a violation?
I'm assuming this was during inbounds play, and that the player in question was going from one side of the basket to the other. The official was correct, it's a violation to leave the court for an unauthorized reason (going around screens is not a valid reason).
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Old Tue Jan 15, 2008, 02:31pm
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Violation. Rule 9-3-2.
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Old Tue Jan 15, 2008, 02:31pm
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The ball was in play in bounds
Then, yea, it's probably a violation. It's leaving the floor for an unauthorized reason. Was she trying to get around a screen or a defender? And how for oob was she?
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Old Tue Jan 15, 2008, 02:51pm
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I've called it twice this year.

Boys varsity I had 2 different kids do it, neither got the ball, so I gave them the stay in warning, 3rd kid did it so at this point I know it's being coached so bang, violation. Coach goes unglued, my partner was bench-side and told him, he's heard me tell them twice to stay in.

Girls JV...the as a favor game...same girl two straight inbound plays. She runs between the in-bounder and the girl guarding the inbound to free herself for the pass.

Again first time she has one foot OOB, so I say stay in. Second time the thrower is deeper so she is completely OOB.
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So what is the call here...I understand, unlawful leaving of the court....

Blow the whistle and signal the other direction, then give explanation?

Would it be different for a throw in versus ball in play?
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So what is the call here...I understand, unlawful leaving of the court....

Blow the whistle and signal the other direction, then give explanation?

Would it be different for a throw in versus ball in play?
The call is "..mumble.. mumble violation". The difference on the throw-in is whether or not it's a spot throw-in. If it is, and the in-bounder "runs" or if someone besides the in-bounder goes oob, then it's a throw-in violation.
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Old Tue Jan 15, 2008, 05:36pm
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The call is "..mumble.. mumble violation". The difference on the throw-in is whether or not it's a spot throw-in. If it is, and the in-bounder "runs" or if someone besides the in-bounder goes oob, then it's a throw-in violation.
Mumble mumble violation....gotcha! I'll call that right after I use the superman signal and report "I've got over the back on 2-3 red"
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Mumble mumble violation....gotcha! I'll call that right after I use the superman signal and report "I've got over the back on 2-3 red"
HEY - that wasn't over-the-back. It was a reach!
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Old Wed Jan 16, 2008, 02:23am
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So what is the call here...I understand, unlawful leaving of the court....

Blow the whistle and signal the other direction, then give explanation?

Would it be different for a throw in versus ball in play?
I hit the whistle, put a hand up and say "violation: running OOB," then point in the direction of the opponent.

Yes, the rule is different. During a designated-spot throw-in the governing rule is 9-2-11. The enforcement is also a bit different. The leaving the court violation (9-3-3) results in a throw-in from that location, while during a throw-in the violation for stepping OOB (9-2-11) results in the ensuing throw-in for the opponent coming from the original throw-in spot no matter where the player stepped OOB.

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