Block/Charge out of primary

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by hbioteach

A2 dribbler contacts B1

Originally Posted by Junker

I thought, "Geez, that looked bad from here."

You thought? When you think you see a travel, do you call it? Just sayin' we gotta know there is contact. Seems like the OP knew there was contact.

I've picked up that PC call before and have had others pick it up for me. In either case, they're rare cases. We're a team and let's get the play right.

[Junker]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

You thought? When you think you see a travel, do you call it? Just sayin' we gotta know there is contact. Seems like the OP knew there was contact.

I've picked up that PC call before and have had others pick it up for me. In either case, they're rare cases. We're a team and let's get the play right.

I agree, but the OP also says that the L had a great angle. If my partner has a great angle they must have a better look than I do as T. I'm not going in on that one as there must have been more to the play than I saw.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Junker

I agree, but the OP also says that the L had a great angle. If my partner has a great angle they must have a better look than I do as T. I'm not going in on that one as there must have been more to the play than I saw.

Brain fart. You've had them, I've had them. Only JR has never had a brain fart. He's ridicously consistent.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Brain fart. You've had them, I've had them. Only JR has never had a brain fart. He's ridicously consistent.

JR doesn't HAVE brain farts. JR IS a brain fart!

Just saying.

[truerookie]

Ask yourself this: Where did the play originate from?

If it orginated from the lead area good no call;

If it orginated from your area and you clearly seen the contact by A1 on B1 it's your call. Why did you pass on the contact? Please don't say because the lead had a better angle.

[Tio]

In a HS game, we should have a whistle 99% of the time there is a crash and bodies are on the floor. If you are 110% certain it was a foul, I would get it. Getting a block charge wrong at the beginning of the game is bad. Not having a whistle on a block/charge on the first play of the game is recipe for a rough and out of control game.

Whether you are the 'R' or not shouldn't have any bearing on whether you make the call. I think another factor to consider whether you come in and get the call depends upon the level of experience of your partners. A rookie may not know how to react to that play.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Tio

In a HS game, we should have a whistle 99% of the time there is a crash and bodies are on the floor. If you are 110% certain it was a foul, I would get it. Getting a block charge wrong at the beginning of the game is bad. Not having a whistle on a block/charge on the first play of the game is recipe for a rough and out of control game.

What do you do when bodies crash to the floor and it is not a result of any illegal activity? I disagree that what happens in the first minute means the rest of the game is going to become rough.

Originally Posted by Tio

Whether you are the 'R' or not shouldn't have any bearing on whether you make the call. I think another factor to consider whether you come in and get the call depends upon the level of experience of your partners. A rookie may not know how to react to that play.

They are not going to learn by you calling everything for them either.

Peace

[Junker]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

What do you do when bodies crash to the floor and it is not a result of any illegal activity? I disagree that what happens in the first minute means the rest of the game is going to become rough.



They are not going to learn by you calling everything for them either.

Peace

I agree with Rut here as well. Bad things happen when you extend your coverage areas.

[Tio]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

What do you do when bodies crash to the floor and it is not a result of any illegal activity? I disagree that what happens in the first minute means the rest of the game is going to become rough.

For the sake of conversation, let's assume we are talking block/charge crash not players that trip over their own feet. I appreciate your opinion and agree that it missing a call early doesn't necessarily illustrate what is going to happen the rest of the game. However, I think I can paint several scenarios where not getting this call could send the game sideways (technical foul, injured player, etc.)



They are not going to learn by you calling everything for them either.

Peace

I will engage the official regarding the play at halftime. Try to figure out why there was no call. This sounds to me like the crew wasn't ready to officiate when the ball went up.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Tio

In a HS game, we should have a whistle 99% of the time there is a crash and bodies are on the floor.

Why? You never saw two kids dive for a loose ball and crash? You never saw a kid drive off-balance to the basket, make contact with a defender and lose his balance, falling to the floor? I agree that most crash situations should get a whistle, but I think 99% is waaaaaaaaaaay too high. There is, after all, such a thing as incidental contact. And some of these crash situations, especially at lower levels, are the result of two clutzy kids who just can't get out of their own way. Hard to penalize one of them for that.

If you are 110% certain it was a foul, I would get it.

If you're 110% certain of anything, I'd go back to math class.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Tio

In a HS game, we should have a whistle 99% of the time there is a crash and bodies are on the floor.

See the definition of incidental contact.

[hbioteach]

I was at the 3 point line on the opposite side of the lane and had a goog look at the play. I spoke with my partner at halftime who said he agrees that we should have had something on the play but froze on the initial play.

I always grab a non PC/block out of my primary if I think, "That's definitely a foul we have to get." But, I have had "no calls" as the L, which my partner as the T has called blocks. That's why I passed on the play.

2 Person.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by hbioteach

I was at the 3 point line on the opposite side of the lane and had a goog look at the play. I spoke with my partner at halftime who said he agrees that we should have had something on the play but froze on the initial play.

I always grab a non PC/block out of my primary if I think, "That's definitely a foul we have to get." But, I have had "no calls" as the L, which my partner as the T has called blocks. That's why I passed on the play.

If you were T, and were at the 3-point line on the opposite side of the lane, where was C? This is his call, unless L had already rotated.

Either way if it was on the opposite side of the court, I have a hard time seeing how this is your call...

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

If you were T, and were at the 3-point line on the opposite side of the lane, where was C? This is his call, unless L had already rotated.

Either way if it was on the opposite side of the court, I have a hard time seeing how this is your call...

It was a two whistle game

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by fullor30

It was a two whistle game

Eh, shazam. Time to bring out my hooked on phonics and actually read the posts again. My apologies.