Slapping the Backboard

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by cdaref

However, that same comment for 10-3-5 goes on to say: "A player who strikes either backboard so forcefully it cannot be ignored because it is an attempt to draw attention to the player or means of venting frustration may be assessed a technical foul per rule 10-3-7."

There is no shot attempt in the OP or in my first play. This rule is all that's needed.

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Good grief, Nevada, isn't that the valentine calling the poinsetta red?

Ain't that the damn truth?

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

There is no shot attempt in the OP or in my first play. This rule is all that's needed.

I agree with you in your play. In the OP, it's hard to tell whether the slap was just an unavoidable follow through, and how hard a slap it was. Would you ever no-call the defender putting his hand on the backboard after a fake?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Would you ever no-call the defender putting his hand on the backboard after a fake?

Well, I ain't Tony but I slept in a Holiday Inn Express last night.......

Judgment call. If the hand is just a follow-through on the momentum of being faked out, and it's not a deliberate slap per se, then no "T" imo.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

I agree with you in your play. In the OP, it's hard to tell whether the slap was just an unavoidable follow through, and how hard a slap it was. Would you ever no-call the defender putting his hand on the backboard after a fake?

I see no difference in the two plays. He wrote, "...B1 went up and slapped the backboard..." Putting the hand on the backboard is not slapping the backboard. I can put a hand on a child without slapping him.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

I can put a hand on a child without slapping him.

Yeah, but slapping them is more effective.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Yeah, but slapping them is more effective.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume this is a joke. Still - it's not funny.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume this is a joke. Still - it's not funny.

Mark, I made an assumption that it was over-the-top enough to be obviously funny, in a "modest proposal" sort of way. I stand by that assumption.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Yeah, but slapping them is more effective.

Agreed. Slapping that butt is much more effective.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

I agree with you in your play. In the OP, it's hard to tell whether the slap was just an unavoidable follow through, and how hard a slap it was. Would you ever no-call the defender putting his hand on the backboard after a fake?

I find it almost impossible to imagine a varsity or higher player not having ability enough to NOT SLAP the backboard if another player fakes a shot (a "pump fake"). He (no misogyny intended -- the players who slap the backboard are almost always male) might be faked out enough to touch the backboard, or might miss a ball in the air and slap the backboard.

I'd have a T in the original play 99.5% of the time.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

He (no misogyny intended -- the players who slap the backboard are almost always male) might be faked out enough to touch the backboard, or might miss a ball in the air and slap the backboard.

I'd have a T in the original play 99.5% of the time.

No misogyny inferred. You're right. Girls and women not only aren't as tall, they generally don't play the kind of game that would ever include the chance to slap. Not that it never happens, just much, much less likely.

I'm glad to hear your assessment of varsity abilities. As I'm going to be doing more boys' games (sooner or later), I want to have a handle on what's generally done and not done, possible and not possible, called and not called. If I do some of the theoretical groundwork now, it increases my learning curve.

Another question, do you (or any other forum people) ever interpret a board slap as an attempt to maintain balance or to control the body and be safe? I've seen times in college ball on TV where it looked like the player was simply trying to steady or "right" themselves, usually on a block attempt where they missed the ball, but sometimes just a high flying defensive maneuver that goes awry. Generally, these don't seem so much like slaps, so perhaps that's the category. Just wondering.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Generally, these don't seem so much like slaps, so perhaps that's the category. Just wondering.

Right. "Slap" < > "Touch"

(although an inappropriate touch can get you a slap, or so I've heard. )

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I find it almost impossible to imagine a varsity or higher player not having ability enough to NOT SLAP the backboard if another player fakes a shot (a "pump fake"). He (no misogyny intended -- the players who slap the backboard are almost always male) might be faked out enough to touch the backboard, or might miss a ball in the air and slap the backboard.

I'd have a T in the original play 99.5% of the time.