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Old Sat Dec 29, 2007, 11:46am
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There's an official here (30 year guy) who prefers to have the official with the ball/shot in his/her primary take the last shot. His thinking is that official will have a better view of the shot, and all three should be able to hear the horn equally well.
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Old Sat Dec 29, 2007, 11:56am
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There's an official here (30 year guy) who prefers to have the official with the ball/shot in his/her primary take the last shot. His thinking is that official will have a better view of the shot, and all three should be able to hear the horn equally well.
I know there are reasons for the official opposite the table, but I've also often wondered if those outweigh having the official who is on the ball take the shot. Why should the center (if he's opposite the table) be watching the guy taking the 24' 3-point attempt on the opposite wing if he's got lots of action in his area?
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Old Sat Dec 29, 2007, 01:00pm
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I know there are reasons for the official opposite the table, but I've also often wondered if those outweigh having the official who is on the ball take the shot. Why should the center (if he's opposite the table) be watching the guy taking the 24' 3-point attempt on the opposite wing if he's got lots of action in his area?
Because with 1 second on the clock, and a 24' 3 point attempt is where everyone sohuld be focused. What happens underneath is irrelevant.
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Old Sat Dec 29, 2007, 01:49pm
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Because with 1 second on the clock, and a 24' 3 point attempt is where everyone sohuld be focused. What happens underneath is irrelevant.
So when should all 6 eyes focus on the ball? With 1 second left? 3? When does play away from the ball become irrelevant?
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Old Sat Dec 29, 2007, 02:42pm
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So when should all 6 eyes focus on the ball? With 1 second left? 3? When does play away from the ball become irrelevant?
IMO, this should only happen if the shot is taken in the paint and I would be careful then too. If a player takes a shot and the officials think it is time for all officials to look at the ball bad things could happen. Someone could get pushed under the basket allowing or denying an easy shot.
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Old Sat Dec 29, 2007, 03:02pm
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So when should all 6 eyes focus on the ball? With 1 second left? 3? When does play away from the ball become irrelevant?
The original situation was in a 4 eyes situation (2-man game), in a 3-whistle game there may be some situations where all 3 officials are watching the ball, but it is rare. In a 2-person game, there are going to be more situations where it is necessary for the other official to help. It can be tough for the trail alone to handle these last second situations. Not only does the trail have to determine if the bucket is good, but also if it was a 3, and if there is a foul on the play. The play becomes even more difficult when the player is very close to the line, and has a defender on him. Typical situations do not include these three variables, but it can happen, and partners should give help when this happens. JMO.

EDIT: Let me answer the first part of your question. If I am respoinsbile for the last second shot, and the ball is in my partner's primary area, I will watch my area, until I know that the clock sounding is imminent, then I must look at the shooter to deteremine if it was released prior to the horn. Yes, there is an obviosu weakness, as for approximately 1 second the post will be unwatched, but there isn't much you can do about it.

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Old Sat Dec 29, 2007, 03:19pm
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The original situation was in a 4 eyes situation (2-man game), in a 3-whistle game there may be some situations where all 3 officials are watching the ball, but it is rare. In a 2-person game, there are going to be more situations where it is necessary for the other official to help. It can be tough for the trail alone to handle these last second situations. Not only does the trail have to determine if the bucket is good, but also if it was a 3, and if there is a foul on the play. The play becomes even more difficult when the player is very close to the line, and has a defender on him. Typical situations do not include these three variables, but it can happen, and partners should give help when this happens. JMO.

EDIT: Let me answer the first part of your question. If I am respoinsbile for the last second shot, and the ball is in my partner's primary area, I will watch my area, until I know that the clock sounding is imminent, then I must look at the shooter to deteremine if it was released prior to the horn. Yes, there is an obviosu weakness, as for approximately 1 second the post will be unwatched, but there isn't much you can do about it.
I agree with most of what you say...but it's my point of discussion: why not let trail have the shot? The obvious is that you don't want any confusion in a gray area where both make the call. Any other reasons to alway have the official opposite the table?
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Old Sat Dec 29, 2007, 03:59pm
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I agree with most of what you say...but it's my point of discussion: why not let trail have the shot? The obvious is that you don't want any confusion in a gray area where both make the call. Any other reasons to alway have the official opposite the table?
IMHO, that's reason enough. If the final shot is taken in the paint, who has responsibility for it? No one will know!! But if you say the opposite official or the C has the last shot, then even in those situations that might be otherwise confusing, it will be clear who will make the call.
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