Blocked shot with contact

[ABO77]

I have a tough time consistantly calling a player jumping and blocking a try and then make some contact after the block. Somtimes I have a foul...sometimes I dont. It seems everybody has their own opinion on this type of call/no call. I hear some officials treat it kinda like a blocked punt in football...some contact afterwards ok. But the next official will have a foul on the same exact play ...comments.

[Back In The Saddle]

First of all, there is never an "exact same play."

A couple of years ago the 80/20 or 70/30 rule was being talked about a lot at the camps I was attending. If the defender gets 80% block and 20% contact (or 70/30, depending on the camp), then consider it a good block. But you're right. It's still pretty subjective.

[Rodical]

I try to see it as any other contact....advantage/disadvantage.....if there is slight contact that is incidental to the play...no foul...if the defender's momentum carries him into the shooter, so that it seems obvious that without contact he would not have been able to block that shot, then it's a foul. When in doubt, I blow the whistle, since these things can escalate quickly.

[Bearfanmike20]

I'm always a little fuzzy on it too. I look for hand on the ball first and formost, and go from there. I signal tip every time to show clean block.

Originally Posted by Bearfanmike20

I'm always a little fuzzy on it too. I look for hand on the ball first and formost, and go from there. I signal tip every time to show clean block.

Oh my...

I suggest you delete that post before the veterans get on you! Please don't tell me that you do that "over-the-back" signal too.

[JRutledge]

My philosophy has always been if it is clean up top, I have got nothing after that. Why penalize the defender for doing what they are supposed to do? This has worked for me for years and I know many official want to call a foul just because there is a little contact. If that is the case then they need to read 4-27.

Peace

[fullor30]

Mike...............nails on a chalkboard with the tipped stuff. Let me ask you, if a player drives to the basket and B1 swipes at it and gets nothing but air, yet A1 blows the cripple and the crowd screams foul do you signal how much B1 missed by?

Marcel Marceau might but officials don't need to do this.

[Bearfanmike20]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

Oh my...

I suggest you delete that post before the veterans get on you! Please don't tell me that you do that "over-the-back" signal too.

Gosh no... no over the back or reach around.

My partner last night.. with the reaching around signal... looked like he just wanted to give somebody a hug.

[JoeTheRef]

Originally Posted by Bearfanmike20

I signal tip every time to show clean block.

PLEASE REMOVE THIS (I'M NOT EVEN CALLING IT A MECHANIC) OUT OF YOUR GAME IMMEDIATELY!!!!

[JoeTheRef]

I had this play last week. A1 is driving to the basket for a layup, B1 jumps into A1 then blocks the shot cleanly. I saw that the contact before the shot block was a gained advantage for B1 to block the shot. The coach said he got all ball. I agreed and told him that I had substantial body contact before the block and if I have a block first and contact after we play on.

[ChrisSportsFan]

Originally Posted by Bearfanmike20

I'm always a little fuzzy on it too. I look for hand on the ball first and formost, and go from there. I signal tip every time to show clean block.

Bad move IMO, what if a partner whistles foul? Now you got one coach happy and the other wants to know why he called a foul when you had a clean block. If it ain't a foul, don't blow you whistle...that's how they know.

[Bearfanmike20]

Originally Posted by ChrisSportsFan

Bad move IMO, what if a partner whistles foul? Now you got one coach happy and the other wants to know why he called a foul when you had a clean block. If it ain't a foul, don't blow you whistle...that's how they know.

OK.. well due to overwhelming pounding I'm taking on this.. the tip on block has been removed from my mechanics.

[Junker]

Originally Posted by Bearfanmike20

I'm always a little fuzzy on it too. I look for hand on the ball first and formost, and go from there. I signal tip every time to show clean block.

Sorry if this has been said, but I haven't had a lot of computer time the last few days. The "foul-tip" mechanic can get you in trouble. For example, my last game before break, my partner is L, doing the "foul tip" and I'm C with my fist in the air. That doesn't look the best.

[johnny1784]

Originally Posted by Bearfanmike20

I'm always a little fuzzy on it too. I look for hand on the ball first and formost, and go from there. I signal tip every time to show clean block.

Is this a required or optional mechanic used during live ball?

Let me check my books...

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

A couple of years ago the 80/20 or 70/30 rule was being talked about a lot at the camps I was attending. If the defender gets 80% block and 20% contact (or 70/30, depending on the camp), then consider it a good block.

Do you know how tough that would be for those FEEBLE guys to try and figure that out in metric?