End of game "let them play"

[Y2Koach]

Happened a few weeks ago. Championship game of a tournament, score is close throughout the whole game. Intense game, but well played, very few fouls committed by either team. With 7 seconds left, team A down by 1, A1 pulls up at the freethrow line for a potential game winning jumper. B1 slides over but is too late to make a defensive play, so he punches A1 in the stomach. Newbie official calls a foul, but veteran ref comes over to over rule his call: "listen, it's a close game, we gotta let them play. We haven't called this all game, so we can't call it now with 7 seconds left. We gotta let the players decide the outcome of the game." They go with an Inadvertant Whistle, team A retains possession of the ball. A2 is trying to inbound the ball on the sideline and steps over the line. Newbie official calls a violation, but again, veteran ref over rules the call: "listen, it's a close game, we gotta let them play. We haven't called this all game, so we can't call it now with 5 seconds left. We gotta let the players decide the outcome of the game." Inadvertant Whistle, team A possession. Inbound pass, A3 is fouled and is on the line for a one and one. He misses the first freethrow, but knowing the shot will be short, he sprints across the FT line before the ball contacts the rim and gets his own rebound, scores as the buzzer goes off. Team B coach is screaming about the FT violation, veteran ref tells coach: "listen, it's a close game, we gotta let them play. We haven't called this all game, so we can't call it now with 2 seconds left. We gotta let the players decide the outcome of the game."

True story...

[chartrusepengui]

more like a horror story!

[kbilla]

Originally Posted by Y2Koach

Happened a few weeks ago. Championship game of a tournament, score is close throughout the whole game. Intense game, but well played, very few fouls committed by either team. With 7 seconds left, team A down by 1, A1 pulls up at the freethrow line for a potential game winning jumper. B1 slides over but is too late to make a defensive play, so he punches A1 in the stomach. Newbie official calls a foul, but veteran ref comes over to over rule his call: "listen, it's a close game, we gotta let them play. We haven't called this all game, so we can't call it now with 7 seconds left. We gotta let the players decide the outcome of the game." They go with an Inadvertant Whistle, team A retains possession of the ball. A2 is trying to inbound the ball on the sideline and steps over the line. Newbie official calls a violation, but again, veteran ref over rules the call: "listen, it's a close game, we gotta let them play. We haven't called this all game, so we can't call it now with 5 seconds left. We gotta let the players decide the outcome of the game." Inadvertant Whistle, team A possession. Inbound pass, A3 is fouled and is on the line for a one and one. He misses the first freethrow, but knowing the shot will be short, he sprints across the FT line before the ball contacts the rim and gets his own rebound, scores as the buzzer goes off. Team B coach is screaming about the FT violation, veteran ref tells coach: "listen, it's a close game, we gotta let them play. We haven't called this all game, so we can't call it now with 2 seconds left. We gotta let the players decide the outcome of the game."

True story...

Wow unreal...goes to show it's not the number of games that you have worked that makes you a good official..that is brutal - what level is this?

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by kbilla

Wow unreal...goes to show it's not the number of games that you have worked that makes you a good official..that is brutal - what level is this?

This can't possibly be true. He's gotta be trying to make a point.

[kbilla]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

This can't possibly be true. He's gotta be trying to make a point.

I would hope not, but you never know...I know several "veteran" officials who haven't worked above 8th grade in 20 years, I could see a few of them doing this...

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Y2Koach

Happened a few weeks ago. Championship game of a tournament, score is close throughout the whole game. Intense game, but well played, very few fouls committed by either team. With 7 seconds left, team A down by 1, A1 pulls up at the freethrow line for a potential game winning jumper. B1 slides over but is too late to make a defensive play, so he punches A1 in the stomach. Newbie official calls a foul, but veteran ref comes over to over rule his call: "listen, it's a close game, we gotta let them play. We haven't called this all game, so we can't call it now with 7 seconds left. We gotta let the players decide the outcome of the game." They go with an Inadvertant Whistle, team A retains possession of the ball. A2 is trying to inbound the ball on the sideline and steps over the line. Newbie official calls a violation, but again, veteran ref over rules the call: "listen, it's a close game, we gotta let them play. We haven't called this all game, so we can't call it now with 5 seconds left. We gotta let the players decide the outcome of the game." Inadvertant Whistle, team A possession. Inbound pass, A3 is fouled and is on the line for a one and one. He misses the first freethrow, but knowing the shot will be short, he sprints across the FT line before the ball contacts the rim and gets his own rebound, scores as the buzzer goes off. Team B coach is screaming about the FT violation, veteran ref tells coach: "listen, it's a close game, we gotta let them play. We haven't called this all game, so we can't call it now with 2 seconds left. We gotta let the players decide the outcome of the game."

True story...

Does this guy work for streets and sanitation in Chicago? Sounds like he's just grabbing a paycheck and going throught the motions. Sad

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Y2Koach

so he punches A1 in the stomach. Newbie official calls a foul, but veteran ref comes over to over rule his call: "listen, it's a close game, we gotta let them play. We haven't called this all game, so we can't call it now with 7 seconds left.

True story...

Koach has a habit of spinning wildly far-fetched tales, ending with "True story" in order to make a point. I fell for it last time.

http://forum.officiating.com/showpos...0&postcount=42

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 14 more times in the same day, well, that's probably normal, too, actually.

[kbilla]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Koach has a habit of spinning wildly far-fetched tales, ending with "True story" in order to make a point. I fell for it last time.

http://forum.officiating.com/showpos...0&postcount=42

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 14 more times in the same day, well, that's probably normal, too, actually.

Ahh ok, I have been duly warned..thanks Scraps..

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by kbilla

I would hope not, but you never know...I know several "veteran" officials who haven't worked above 8th grade in 20 years, I could see a few of them doing this...

Did a two game set last night, 7th and 8th grade girls and partner, although a good guy, is the laziest ref I know. Refuses to switch or move to other side of court. I made him move a few times by keeping my head down as I ran cross court to inbound on opposite end of baseline to become the new trail and never gave him a peek.

Would tweet whistle with no signals other than a cursory wave of direction, if I was lucky, on out of bounds plays.

Makes for a long evening if partners aren't into it.

[Jimgolf]

FWIW, IMHO, "I let them play at the end of the game" is a euphemism for "I'm afraid to make a controversial call, even if I'm right."

[Chess Ref]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Did a two game set last night, 7th and 8th grade girls and partner, although a good guy, is the laziest ref I know. Refuses to switch or move to other side of court. I made him move a few times by keeping my head down as I ran cross court to inbound on opposite end of baseline to become the new trail and never gave him a peek.

Would tweet whistle with no signals other than a cursory wave of direction, if I was lucky, on out of bounds plays.

Makes for a long evening if partners aren't into it.

I generally force the switch, most of "them" will go with it.