Pennsylvania Question

[PIAA REF]

In Pa we have the running clock anytime a team is leading by 40 points in the second half. The clock is stopped only on the following, Shooting fouls, time-outs and long delays (ex: injury) My question that I can not find any confirmation on is when does the clock stop when shooting the fouls. Should it stop when the calling official reports the foul or when the ball is at the free-throwers disposal. Any state clarification would be helpful

I would suggest you call your interpreter and ask him/her directly. Is that statewide?
As a general assumption, I would guess that it is stopped at the time of the foul but your local interpreter or board member should know. Aren't you issued a handbook that would outline this?

[PIAA REF]

Yes it is a state wide rule. I have an email into my local interpreter. I was just hoping that someone else from PA may have got clarification. I am the assistant interpreter and have not recieved any documentation and I don't believe the int. recieved any either.

[PIAA REF]

This is what was in the handout the year that this rule came into effect:

Adopt Rule 5-5 NOTE, running clock, at all
levels (varsity, junior varsity, or otherwise)
of competition, upon completion of the first
half and one team gains a 40-point differential
over its opponent, the clock shall be
stopped only when an official's time-out is
taken, a charged time-out is granted, a period
ends, or administering free throws.

I would stop it at the time the foul is called. If you are reporting to the table, I would just indicate to them to leave the clock running if they are unsure whether it is a shooting foul or not. JMO

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by PIAA REF

administering free throws.

This term isn't defined in the rules (afaik), but it seems to me that it's well after the foul has been called. I'd probably make it when the calling official tells the table that FTs will be shot.

[Ref in PA]

Originally Posted by PIAA REF

In Pa we have the running clock anytime a team is leading by 40 points in the second half. The clock is stopped only on the following, Shooting fouls, time-outs and long delays (ex: injury) My question that I can not find any confirmation on is when does the clock stop when shooting the fouls. Should it stop when the calling official reports the foul or when the ball is at the free-throwers disposal. Any state clarification would be helpful

I have not seen any specific documentation other than to stop the clock for shooting fouls.

It has been my experience that the table stops the clock when it realizes a free throw will be attempted (common foul in the bonus, a foul against the shooter, intentional fouls, technical fouls, etc.). So, as I report the foul to the table, the clock has already been stopped by the timer.

[CoachP]

Hmmm, that's interesting, I believe in Michigan we keep the clock running for FT's.

Mick?

[PIAA REF]

We use to keep the clock running in pa as well. Coaches complained and it got changed. It use to be a 40 point rule in the 3rd and a 30 point rule in the 4th rule. One funny thing is what if this happened.

Coach benches starters for the first half, they come out and are down by 40 points in the 3rd. That would mean that the running clock would be in effect. What if they caught up and tied it. Would overtime be a running clock as well?

The rule is yes, OT is a continuation of the 4th quarter.

[CoachP]

Originally Posted by PIAA REF

We use to keep the clock running in pa as well. Coaches complained and it got changed. It use to be a 40 point rule in the 3rd and a 30 point rule in the 4th rule. One funny thing is what if this happened.

Coach benches starters for the first half, they come out and are down by 40 points in the 3rd. That would mean that the running clock would be in effect. What if they caught up and tied it. Would overtime be a running clock as well?

The rule is yes, OT is a continuation of the 4th quarter.

In Mich, I also believe if the team can cut the deficit to 30, the clock goes back to normal.

p.s.
And we do stop for FT's with 2 min to go in the 4th quarter when there was a running clock still in effect.

[BLydic]

In our chapter, we've been instructed to have the timer stop the clock after we are done reporting the foul. I include this in my pregame chat with the table.

[Scooby]

Coachp is right, the clock stops whenthe diference is less than 30.

[SCalScoreKeeper]

In California we run the clock with one team ahead 40+ in the 4'th. The only reason that the clock should be stopped is for a time-out (either team or injury)!

[PIAA REF]

Not to get others confused, coach is only talking about the Michigan rules. The mercy rule is dictated by state, so it could be different from state to state. For instance in PA once the 40 point rule is in effect it stays that way even if they go under it. (Has to be in the second half)