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Old Mon Dec 10, 2007, 09:12am
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Generally speaking, I hold players and coaches to the same standard: the rules of the game. There is nothing about trash talking that makes it worse for an adult to do than a child. And in the cases of both children and adults I prefer to apply the minimum penalty for a behavior issue that will solve the problem.
BITS, I as well disagree with your premise. The distinction isn’t between an adult and child, but the coach and the player. I believe we as officials should hold the coach to a higher standard. It’s his job to master the rules as well as coach his players. The coach has more influence on his players then his players may have on their teammates. If I want the coach to set an example for his players, then I am going to make an example out of the coach. If not, then I’ve just advocated the coach’s behavior and the players will follow suit because all they’ll get is a “T” and 1 towards their foul count. Then you have a bunch of unruly, unsporting participants in your game which could turn your game ugly real quick. JMO.
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Old Mon Dec 10, 2007, 10:05am
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I believe we as officials should hold the coach to a higher standard.
And your rules support for this?
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Old Mon Dec 10, 2007, 10:32am
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And your rules support for this?
It's in the rulebook, but not in the rules section. Read the Coaches Code of Ethics. That's the standard that I will hold them to and enforce the rules by.
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Old Mon Dec 10, 2007, 10:39am
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It's in the rulebook, but not in the rules section. Read the Coaches Code of Ethics. That's the standard that I will hold them to and enforce the rules by.
Bad idea. Are you going to issue the coach a flagrant technical foul for not mastering the rules or for not teaching them to his/her players? Are you going to issue a flagrant technical foul for not exerting his influence when the spectators show bad sportsmanship? Are you going to issue a flagrant technical when the coach is not working closely with the cheerleaders?

Those are all things that are part of the coaches' code of ethics. If you're not going to give a flagrant T for all of them, why would you give a flagrant T for yelling at an opposing player?
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Old Mon Dec 10, 2007, 10:48am
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Bad idea. Are you going to issue the coach a flagrant technical foul for not mastering the rules or for not teaching them to his/her players? Are you going to issue a flagrant technical foul for not exerting his influence when the spectators show bad sportsmanship? Are you going to issue a flagrant technical when the coach is not working closely with the cheerleaders?

Those are all things that are part of the coaches' code of ethics. If you're not going to give a flagrant T for all of them, why would you give a flagrant T for yelling at an opposing player?
Scrapper, I never said I was going to give a flagrant in the OP. I was just disagreeing with BITS premise that we treat the coach and the player in the same manner.
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