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Old Sat Dec 01, 2007, 10:21pm
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It sounds like a good T to me. Did the rest of the game go well? Players playing? Asst coach coaching and not complaining? That's another way to judge a T. If it makes the game better, it was probably good.

(That doesn't mean if it doesn't make the game better, you shouldn't have done it.)
Yes, the rest of the game went real well. A person came from the stands and took over. First thing he did was group his players and told them to forget about the technicals and play on. He was very positive with the team and drawing plays on a white board, etc. As a matter of fact, the other team's coach was pretty quiet after this too.

The comment from the stands about having to warn the coach prior to calling the T made me smile inside a bit, as I immediately thought of this forum when he said it. However, I was quickly jolted back to the game when the coach earned his second T.

I have to admit, this forum has made a great difference in my officiating.

By the way, the opposing team missed all six free throws for the T(yes, different rules for this tourney), and didn't score after receiving the ball out at the division line.
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Old Sat Dec 01, 2007, 11:02pm
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Granted that this was a middle school situation and you felt you needed to do what you needed to do which is fine.

But the advice I have been given regarding giving a T to a coach is get to the circle and find your partner, (hopefully one is already there for you). Then short of the coach coming out and tackling you don't be calling a second T on the coach. Get your thoughts together, let him vent, let your partner get him seatbelted (in NFHS) and get the game going again. If he does do something that deserves the second T it better come from one of your other partners.

In your situation, Ting a coach a second time and thus ejecting him just because he disagreed with the first one is a bit of a stretch.

Again, this is probably for higher level ball so take it for what its worth, but something to think about as you develop.
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Old Sun Dec 02, 2007, 12:58pm
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Then short of the coach coming out and tackling you don't be calling a second T on the coach. Get your thoughts together, let him vent, let your partner get him seatbelted (in NFHS) and get the game going again.
I completely disagree with that particular officiating philosophy. If an official sees unsporting behavior, then that official should damnwell deal with that unsporting behavior. That's supposed to be part of our mandate. Dealing with it might mean a stop sign or a simple "that's enough", but deal with it.

Personally, I'll be damned if I'll let a coach vent at me. I'll handle my own problems without depending on someone else to bail me out.
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Old Sun Dec 09, 2007, 11:43pm
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I'm in complete agreement here with jurassic. I had a sitch the other night at a Jr. High ballgame. After being warned about his complaining, Team A coach came several feet out onto the floor with are raised complaining about a call my part. had made from the L.. I gave the coach the T and while I was reporting he took a few steps toward the baseline turned and quite briskly came at me complaing and pointing his finger at me. I gave him a stop sign. He didn't So I whacked him again. I'm not waiting for anyone to come call the second one in a situation like that.
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