Scorebook/Scoreboard Error at End of Game

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

I read the OP as the scoreboard was incorrect, and the official book was correct...

It also depends which part of the scorebook was correct and where the points were recorded. See my above post about the running score versus the individual player talleys.

I'm sure that you know that.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

It also depends which part of the scorebook was correct and where the points were recorded. See my above post about the running score versus the individual player talleys.

I'm sure that you know that.

Yeah, great point, and also a great point in your post about "what is the official actually approving?" It would be great to get a clarification or case play added regarding this type of situation.

We had a scoring error in our game last night that wasn't caught in time. My partner called a PC foul on a layup in the third quarter, and apparently the scorers counted the basket. The other team ended up losing by 1. After the game (and after we'd left the confines and returned) the coach asked us about it. He knew the mistake had been made, said he tried to make the point with the scorer, but never asked one of us about it. Strange situation, and I was left wondering if I should have been aware enough at the time to catch it. It was also the one call all night I was frustrated with my partner on because for the second night in a row my partner came to get a call in my area - and IMO was wrong again.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

Yeah, great point, and also a great point in your post about "what is the official actually approving?" It would be great to get a clarification or case play added regarding this type of situation.

We had a scoring error in our game last night that wasn't caught in time. My partner called a PC foul on a layup in the third quarter, and apparently the scorers counted the basket. The other team ended up losing by 1. After the game (and after we'd left the confines and returned) the coach asked us about it. He knew the mistake had been made, said he tried to make the point with the scorer, but never asked one of us about it. Strange situation, and I was left wondering if I should have been aware enough at the time to catch it. It was also the one call all night I was frustrated with my partner on because for the second night in a row my partner came to get a call in my area - and IMO was wrong again.

That's an excellent learning example. I track the score and the team fouls the entire game. After every basket goes in I find a time in the next couple of seconds to check that the points went up on the board properly. If we get to the next dead ball and they haven't I stop the game and get it fixed.

In your case there was a foul, the game was now stopped, and you have time to check the board, you should be glancing at it for the clock info anyway at every whistle. This really is something that I would expect a varsity official to catch, but as you said, you may have been distracted due to your partner calling out of his area. That is something that I'm sure all of us can take a lesson from and strive to improve upon. How does it affect us when our partner does such and such on the floor. The best officials will keep a poker face and continue to do their duties. It just takes extra mental focus. Thanks for sharing that situation. I'm going to think about it when I work again this weekend.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

This really is something that I would expect a varsity official to catch, but as you said, you may have been distracted due to your partner calling out of his area. That is something that I'm sure all of us can take a lesson from and strive to improve upon. How does it affect us when our partner does such and such on the floor. The best officials will keep a poker face and continue to do their duties. It just takes extra mental focus. Thanks for sharing that situation. I'm going to think about it when I work again this weekend.

Absolutely - one thing I know is that in striving to do the best I can and "prove" myself as an official new to this area, I'm allowing some distractions I shouldn't.

Game awareness, as I said, is an area I'm working hard on this year and it failed me there. Unfortunately, both of us have 5 or more years under our belts, have called quite a bit of varsity, and neither of us caught this one. Quite frustrating, but as you said a great learning opportunity and something I'll be working on next time out (tomorrow and Friday).

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

Absolutely - one thing I know is that in striving to do the best I can and "prove" myself as an official new to this area, I'm allowing some distractions I shouldn't.

I just surmised that and made a comment about it in the other thread that you started this morning. Go check it out.

We should probably bounce this discussion back over to that thread instead of continuing to highjack this one. I feel that we are getting away from the OP's point.

[imagomer]

Clarifying: Scorebook's running score and player stats were correct, reflecting the scoring of 4 pts instead of 2.

. . . and yeah, scorekeeper SWEARS (or affirms) never to make this mistake again. Incidentally, your advice to absolutely get the running score correct before marking the player stats is exactly what the officials last night advised her.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by imagomer

Clarifying: Scorebook's running score and player stats were correct, reflecting the scoring of 4 pts instead of 2.

. . . and yeah, scorekeeper SWEARS (or affirms) never to make this mistake again. Incidentally, your advice to absolutely get the running score correct before marking the player stats is exactly what the officials last night advised her.

So how does she go the whole 4th quarter or however long it was marking up two more points on the line than are shown up on the board and never have it click with her when she looks up? Did she never look at the scoreboard or did she not read the number that she was putting the mark through in the book?

I'm just baffled here that it would go undetected for so long?

PS Where are your fans? You know the "helpful" ones who always scream "The scores wrong! We didn't get our points." They needed to make some noise for you.