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So my season starts out with you basic vanilla JV tourney. So we about 30 seconds into my first game and this kid does a Vlade Divac on the court, and not a very good one at that. First chance I get I talk to him about it and he's good to go. one other kid tried it and I told him what the penalty was.
So has anyone really issued a T for "faking being fouled" ? I asked other refs this weekend and they pretty much looked at me like I had lobsters coming out of my head. The whole flopping thing annoys me but I really don't want to be the first one in the history of basketball to throw a T for flopping. So what do you think ? |
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Yes, I've been handcuffed into calling it. A few years ago I had a sophmore double header, 2 man. In the 1st quarter with about 2 minutes left in the half, the point guard for the visiting team takes a dive. I made a mental note of the players number and was going to talk to the coach quickly at the break. 4 possessions or so later, the same kid does the same thing again, and my partner, for some reason unknown to me, decides to stop the game and have the scorer record a formal warning in the book (not sure where he got that). I did have a quick conversation with the coach as to what happened and told him I was seeing the kid do the same thing. At the half I inform my partner that there was not a formal warning for that. So, of course as life goes, early in the 3rd quarter, I'm going to lead on a break, the kid in question has an offensive player get a step away from him on the drive, falls backwards and makes a noise. Since everyone in the gym knew the warning was there (although it should have been handled quietly) I didn't even hesitate. I threw the T. The visiting coach jumps up as I go to the bench. I just put up the "stop sign" and said firmly, "that is the exact play we talked about before you left the court and the exact player." He sat down and we moved on. So, yes, it has been called, although it can be avoided in most cases.
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Why not enforce the penalty the book calls for. The "flopper" is CHEATING. The faking of a foul to get an opponent penalized is "unsporting" behavior. I have called it before and the flopping stopped for the rest of the game.
What is the downside? The team that has been cheated against get 2 FT and the ball. The coach yells at his player something like, "stay on your feet, play defense". |
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![]() It's never a good idea to make up your own rules imo. If an official has a concern about a player flopping, then the rules already allow that official to stop the practice. If you want to warn first, fine. If it bothers you or if they ignore your warning, then simply issue the technical foul. If you don't want to use the rules that we have though, don't get into making things up. |
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